Looks like they want to maintain an echo chamber
Looks like they want to maintain an echo chamber
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WYeah, it's doable, but you're correct it won't be as hard mechanical stops. Similarly how it is with Rhino soft endstops vs limiter plate.
And it's very slimy from Moza when they attempt delete/hide all criticism
And it's very slimy from Moza when they attempt delete/hide all criticism
JMan sounds like simracing bros are a different breed
DAgreed, and they still show me marketing brochures, but no proof of the forces they provide, I tested at the expo and it felt half the strength if the rhino
DSo I officially asked in the correct channel for their feedback
D
DAnd this time, I took screenshots, so they dont delete them when they canβt or wonβt answer
DI just want information on their product without be drowned down with marketing
DI was very upset when they deleted my comments, becuase I know rhino demoed this, but handbreak? That will require a lot of torque? Is that the right word⦠to stop this thing and act like a real break
DAnyway, they claim 12nm peak, but the motors look smaller than rhino and is 12nm for 1-2 seconds before it cuts out?
DAnyway, im on a fact finding mission
DYou are not supposed to ask that. Just shut up and be fed marketing BS how its the best product that was ever created by the hand of god himself
WThere's speculation, that they declared the 12nm peak as a combination of both motors , β (9Β²+9Β²)=12,72 Nm 
DI have the rhino, so I know what I expect and so far only the rhino offers the best features for the price
DThats what I said
DWhen they said 9 initially, I was like 4.5 per motor
DDont expect an only profit driven company to be better than something solely dedicated to do one thing
DI said that to them at the expo 
DThen they said, this is only a prototypeβ¦
DThen I hear they starting to sell it soon
DImo its only like a gimmick to test the waters
DIt will je sort of ffb but not able to sustain it for longer periods and every youtub simmer will tell you how its the best thing a man ever created
H@Touch_Of_Legend Yeah, correct. They explicitly write that on their product page. It's the theoretical diagonal maximum. (minus the geometry effect of the twist of the gimbal core)
HThey still claim 9Nm peak per axis
MTrying to hide/delete comments always sucks, especially as you're only trying to offer your opinion ad feedback. Also, I didn't even consider handbrake, can't see that working
DThatβs the thing that annoys me. I want buyers to have the very best of factual information when they buy something and not be subject to marketing trickery.
DThis wonβt stop me though, I will persist until I get all my answers
DThat aint gonna happen. They dont give a rats ass about anything except your money
Anot to totally defend moza here, but it's possible it was just an overzealous moderator that misinterpreted the communication. regardless of whether they make something as good as the rhino or not, it's in general great validation for brands to start getting into this market, it will drive competition and hopefully eventually drive prices down
Aimo we should be welcoming of all competition and nudging them gently to be better if we think they can be
WWell said
WI see Virpil has started to FOMO and announced FFB 
SEven more competition for walmis
Awhere?
A(honestly -- i was low key hoping they would just hire you :P)
WFacebook
WTruthfully, being a salaried employee is meh and I wouldn't want to work for them. Licencing would be more interesting.
Ayeah that's totally fair
Nfrom a company that is trying with non-committal marketing language to make it look like the entire product is "AVIATION-GRADE ALUMINUM CONSTRUCTION" lol
Nand promising "universal" compatibility with "all" third party grips and almost immediately walking that back
Ni want to like moza for their initiative here, but they're just increasingly looking like a second thrustmaster
DI hope this is all it was, and ill give them the benefit of the doubt
DWalmis brought FFB to life, he will bring more to life and we will see if these larger companies can keep up with a single person 
DI laughed when I saw that
DI was like, orly,β¦ only rhino can truly claim this
DLets see what you come with.. oh, you backtracked.. lol
DI truly want them to succeed, but I dont want to be lied to or tricked into buying something and then finding out later it was a slimey sales tactic
DThey are a big company, they know all the tricks
Nmany excited vkb owners were piping up about vkb compatibility this past week 
fortunately for them, walmis is still here to save the day
fortunately for them, walmis is still here to save the dayDSame, though not as for them since I dont give a rats ass about them but that means that potentially I could jump places on the list for my Rhino
