I miss foobar2000..... also I tried getting it to work in Bottles but it just refuses to work.... so

I miss foobar2000..... also I tried getting it to work in Bottles but it just refuses to work.... so I

sudo rpm-ostree install wine

sudo rpm-ostree install wine

sudo rpm-ostree install wine

sudo rpm-ostree install wine

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:32 AM

Sounds like a brutal layering there lol, but works ig

Ryuzaki KoizumiOP•7/3/24, 2:32 AM

I don't care lol

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:33 AM

I'm still surprised nobody's managed to create a great clone of fb2000

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:33 AM

There's a couple of decentish simular players but nothing that quite gets the vibes right

Ryuzaki KoizumiOP•7/3/24, 2:33 AM

This is also one of the very reasons Logan of Tek Syndicate can't move over to Linux.

Wizardmon•7/3/24, 2:33 AM

I ended up buying a second PC just to run Foobar2000 in a Internetless windows 10 install.
Then with a 3.5mm jack I plumb the audio into my Line in from the media PC to my PC.
then using Helvum I plumb the line in into my USB soundcard to headphones.

Ryuzaki KoizumiOP•7/3/24, 2:34 AM

ok that's just excessive lol

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:34 AM

DeaDBeeF got kinda close, but gtkland and I don't think it's been upgraded to modern toolkits

Ryuzaki KoizumiOP•7/3/24, 2:34 AM

I think I tried DeaDBeeF...

Wizardmon•7/3/24, 2:34 AM

I've yet to get a seemless Foobar2000 in Linux, there's always some issue. A plugin not working, audio popping, random pauses etc.

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:35 AM

My favorite thing about foobar2000 is when I accidently overwrite my entire playlist because I was on the wrong one when I double clicked something

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:35 AM

I could probably replicate that

Wizardmon•7/3/24, 2:35 AM

No native Linux app has been able to import my media library well either, 800GB music folder sorted manually by folders, everything hates that.

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:35 AM

I would go old school and say MPD

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:36 AM

Dunno any good modern clients though and ncmpcpp actually hates my music library lol

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:36 AM

Dunno if MPD would play nice with brew and def no flatpaks there

Ryuzaki KoizumiOP•7/3/24, 2:36 AM

is it possible to get Wine apps to use ALSA like as if I was using WASAPI in Windows tho?

Ryuzaki KoizumiOP•7/3/24, 2:36 AM

I kinda don't like the idea of being stuck on PulseAudio

RRyuzaki Koizumi I miss foobar2000..... also I tried getting it to work in Bottles but it just re...

VagrantWinds•7/3/24, 2:37 AM

if it's anything like musicbee it might just need a 32bit prefix and an older version of dotnet installed to that prefix

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:37 AM

I think all the Ublue/fedora systems are pipewire default these days

WWizardmon No native Linux app has been able to import my media library well either, 800GB ...

Pez•7/3/24, 2:37 AM

800gb needs a real library server

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:37 AM

alsa raw has its own set of issues avoiding exclusivity and picking the right devices

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:37 AM

but less complexity and odd issues past that

JJohnny Appleseed I think all the Ublue/fedora systems are pipewire default these days

Ryuzaki KoizumiOP•7/3/24, 2:38 AM

Well yeah that I'm aware of lol. that's the whole thing tho is to play things raw. I used to do that in foobar in Windows, set my audio output to exclusive

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:39 AM

ig technically you could kill pipewire and make stuff work but probably not worth the hassle

Wizardmon•7/3/24, 2:39 AM

That's what my media PC is, foobar2000 adds all that to a dynamically searchable library with zero perceivable lag. I can find a album with like, 3 button presses or search a entire genre or year like that too.
Meanwhile in Linux on like Clementine/Audacious/deadbeef it just freezes when I try that.

Ryuzaki KoizumiOP•7/3/24, 2:39 AM

I've been able to get Audacious to run with ALSA Output, with that I can play Hi-Res audio as it is.

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:39 AM

I used to run alsa only on arch in the early 2010s but been a minute

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:40 AM

Pipewire has wrappers around alsa/pulseaudio/jack so most things end up routed there unless you change that I think

WWizardmon That's what my media PC is, foobar2000 adds all that to a dynamically searchable...

Pez•7/3/24, 2:40 AM

expectations vs reality. any random audio player is not necessarily good at storing metadata properly.

Pez•7/3/24, 2:41 AM

look at an actual backing server like navidrome if you need to handle 800gb worth of music efficiently

Wizardmon•7/3/24, 2:41 AM

Yeah, my reality was just buying a little mini ATX box to deal with it.
Someday I will figure out installing Foobar2000 on Linux in a way that has zero issues, or maybe Peter will just finally port it over.

Pez•7/3/24, 2:41 AM

big if true tbh

JJohnny Appleseed Pipewire has wrappers around alsa/pulseaudio/jack so most things end up routed t...

Ryuzaki KoizumiOP•7/3/24, 2:41 AM

and that's exactly what I did lol

Pez•7/3/24, 2:41 AM

foobar is a fossil

Pez•7/3/24, 2:42 AM

a big pretty fossil

PPez a big pretty fossil

VagrantWinds•7/3/24, 2:42 AM

they did a modern complete rewrite

VagrantWinds•7/3/24, 2:42 AM

there's now foobar and foobar classic

VVagrantWinds they did a modern complete rewrite

Pez•7/3/24, 2:42 AM

is it still hilariously tied to windows

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:43 AM

I remember that at least old foobar was very tied into Visual C++ and various windows toolkits

Pez•7/3/24, 2:43 AM

yeah old foobar was crusty as hell

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:43 AM

so it'd probably have to be an entire rewrite to port it over

Pez•7/3/24, 2:43 AM

idk what the situation is with new foobar though.

Cat Pilot•7/3/24, 2:43 AM

what just happened ?

Pez•7/3/24, 2:43 AM

does the rewrite still rely on 1000 microsoft toolkits anyway?

CCat Pilot what just happened ? 😗

Johnny Appleseed•7/3/24, 2:43 AM

https://discord.com/channels/1072614816579063828/1074438180847239279/1257854077048721520

Ryuzaki KoizumiOP•7/3/24, 2:43 AM

Anyone willing to reverse-engineer foobar to find out tho?

Pez•7/3/24, 2:43 AM

what

VagrantWinds•7/3/24, 2:43 AM

i'm more of a musicbee person but i still enjoy foobar for simple playlist playing and quick tag editing. it's still a powerful and lightweight player though

VagrantWinds•7/3/24, 2:44 AM

recently found g4music for simple local music playing on linux, though it doesn't really have any features beyond that

I miss foobar2000..... also I tried getting it to work in Bottles but it just refuses to work.... so

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