computers being outdated in five years is just fact
computers being outdated in five years is just fact
Mif I open 2 firefox windows it would be so lag in x11
MIt is, you’re the one who mentioned not expecting new software to run on 10 year old hardware
MAlways ran fine on my system
MThat’s moores law
MAnd no it’s not
P"moore's law is dead!"
MYep
MTell me how much faster a smart phone built today really is from one built 5 years ago
P>your decade old hardware mysteriously became shit for no reason
MIn a meaningful way
Mfine =/= laggy
MDoesn’t lag
Mit works but in a very annoying way
Pit's just a psyop and software developers are actually gaslighting you into buying new hardware, i'm sure that's it
Pmoore's law is just a way to try and rationalize this but ultimately doesn't make sense
MAhh yes, be sarcastic and ridicule
MF&#^ edge cases
Kthe official posiiton of the KDE SIG is that any X11 issue is closed + won't fix
Kour position is that we will remove X11 from our package lists by F41, and then close+won't fix
Ptoo much effort tbh
KX11 is dead
KPoor X11.
Pyou should leave it in packages but let it stay broken so people dont complain about no x11
Pthey complain about broken x11 instead :hahasuffering:
KI'd rather they layer it and then open an issue so I can close + won't fix it in complete confidence by virtue of the package being there in
rpm-ostree statusI can even screenshot the glitchiest in x11
MAnd yet, programmers I know who code shit in like Haskell for satellites and stuff need it and can’t run Wayland
Kthat is what XWayland is for
Pthey can run literally any other distro if this is a problem
Kwhich is not going away, just as pipewire-pulse isn't going away
KThey'd also likely not be running bazzite to do so
MIt’s broken
Psupporting haskell developers isn't our mission here LMFAO
K"it's broken" he says on the distro that plays games entirely in XWayland
Kthere are also fully featured nested x11 compositors you can use
KI will not entertain this
Pi want to "play elden ring without screen tearing"
MNo I can’t, that’s right up there with saying “if you don’t like it here move”
Pnot support 80s software
KI've been using X11 since it was Xfree86. It's about time it got put out to pasture. It's kludges on top of hacks on top of patches at this point.
Hwhat does haskell even have to do with windowing protocols what
Pyeah and that's actually the prerogative set
Pyou can go use an ancient LTS distro if you need LTS software
Pnobody is stopping you from not getting updates but yourself at that point
KOr run a VM. Or Distrobox and VNC to yourself.
Pyou don't have to use wayland but nobody is going to stop progress on wayland for some random ass industrial control software from the 80s
Pyou can even start your own distro that supports those users
KDon't make the COBOL programmers come after you.
Poh no
