Ai get the feeling AMD is purposefully focusing on APUs instead
Asince that's one thing Nvidia can't make
Aand is where the $ is made for consumer x86 products
KIt is a better niche for them, as well as console APUs being the thing that saved them originally iirc
Ameanwhile nvidia owns 90% of the laptop gaming market adn makes all the money
Abc each dgpu costs as much as 4 apus
Atbh I suspect that gaming laptops are going to get murdered by APU gaming devices that are "good enough"
Ayou know that an asus x13 costs like 2.5G
Aim not saying theyre not gonna die
KAMD lays off entire marketing department, "with intel the way it is we don't need one" the company said in a statement earlier today
ZBased
Aamd is playing to its strengths but NVIDIA has too many fronts to worry rn
Athan to focus on the budget APU consumer market
AAI is where the big $ is at
Hsorry i dont drink poison (i dislike energy drinks) 
Aenterprise AI is
Anot the copilot button stuff
KCoffee is the way 
AI think AI is the only reason why Nvidia is suddently playing nicer with Linux for drivers and stuff
KDeveloper juice
Hwater
Aagreed, consumer AI is niche
Kand here I literally just bought an AMD CPU / Nvidia GPU gaming laptop yesterday
Aenterprise AI will be big
KI feel like a traitor
AI sold off my gaming laptop after getting PC handhelds
Ai'd rather have a good laptop experience and a good gaming experience, rather than a mediocre experience of both on the same device
KI have my Legion Go, but it struggles on larger displays in some of my games and I don't always want to play on a 8.8" screen on the go.
Athat's where you make a steam machine 
Khad to edit in *on the go
KI do have a desktop, but it's basically been relegated to a full time VR rig
Ksince thats all I really use it for
Athat makes more sense. but I still think gaming laptops will become much more niche
Afan noise sucks on gaming laptops
Aas does battery life
KI agree yeah probably.
Athermals
KI pray for ublue,/bazzite and ashai 
Aeverything is a compromise on gaming laptops
KWell, I can only speak for myself, but I'd never buy a gaming laptop expecting to NOT plug it in
Athough perhaps a beefy AMD APU could change my mind 
KI think the only comrpomise the FW16 makes is size and cost
Kbut, that's a tier so far above a handheld that it's a different class altogether
Myeah if they’re lightweight, they’re going to sound like a Dyson vacuum
KCost is why I didn't get a Framework, especially after the USD exchange rate.
JThe AMD Advantage laptops were awesome, but now I can just Framework 16 and be done forever.
KI'd love to get a Framework. can't justify the cost
JI have the all AMD Asus g14, it's like previous gen parts of what's in the FW16 and that thing is awesome.
MI just sunshine into my main rig on my Mac 
KMr Schwartz got a 4090 a 7900XTX and a Mac