AI think AI is the only reason why Nvidia is suddently playing nicer with Linux for drivers and stuff
KDeveloper juice
Hwater
Aagreed, consumer AI is niche
Kand here I literally just bought an AMD CPU / Nvidia GPU gaming laptop yesterday 
Aenterprise AI will be big
KI feel like a traitor
AI sold off my gaming laptop after getting PC handhelds
Ai'd rather have a good laptop experience and a good gaming experience, rather than a mediocre experience of both on the same device
KI have my Legion Go, but it struggles on larger displays in some of my games and I don't always want to play on a 8.8" screen on the go.
Athat's where you make a steam machine 
Khad to edit in *on the go
KI do have a desktop, but it's basically been relegated to a full time VR rig
Ksince thats all I really use it for
Athat makes more sense. but I still think gaming laptops will become much more niche
Afan noise sucks on gaming laptops
Aas does battery life
KI agree yeah probably.
Athermals
KI pray for ublue,/bazzite and ashai 
Aeverything is a compromise on gaming laptops
KWell, I can only speak for myself, but I'd never buy a gaming laptop expecting to NOT plug it in
Athough perhaps a beefy AMD APU could change my mind 
KI think the only comrpomise the FW16 makes is size and cost
Kbut, that's a tier so far above a handheld that it's a different class altogether
Myeah if they’re lightweight, they’re going to sound like a Dyson vacuum
KCost is why I didn't get a Framework, especially after the USD exchange rate.
JThe AMD Advantage laptops were awesome, but now I can just Framework 16 and be done forever.
KI'd love to get a Framework. can't justify the cost
JI have the all AMD Asus g14, it's like previous gen parts of what's in the FW16 and that thing is awesome.
MI just sunshine into my main rig on my Mac 
KMr Schwartz got a 4090 a 7900XTX and a Mac
Aand a threadripper
AAbut yeah, i think gaming laptops will become more niche due to PC handhelds and AMD APUs
Kthis is what a Framework 16 w/ Radeon GPU would cost me in my currency. I paid $917 for similar performance prebuilt (on sale but still)
Koops large image sorry
Kand that's before 13% sales tax
MHonestly already paying off, I spend half as much time on kernel bisects and builds as I used to
MI’m going to throw together a kernel patch for my own testing with some ODM/MPO reverts and see if there are any downsides to it
KThe only reason I can see this possibly not happening is just because of the laptop vs desktop market share changes over the last years. Desktop share is way down.
Cdeployment starting..... taking forever, you think its broke?
Adesktops have already been dying in general, laptops were the main moneymaker for x86 consumer devices
I just think that gaming laptops will become even more niche because most people don't care for having a battery destroying dGPU.
AMD's APUs are increasingly becoming "good enough" for most casual users. Same for Intel APUs.
I just think that gaming laptops will become even more niche because most people don't care for having a battery destroying dGPU.
AMD's APUs are increasingly becoming "good enough" for most casual users. Same for Intel APUs.
AI used
ujust _restore-original-terminal to unhide konsole. Now that I know you can edit transparency of ptyxis how do I rehide konsole?
J"We may miss the Fedora 41 window so hopefully Fedora 42", bruuuuuuuuuuuuuh
Mthat’s realistic I think, it’s barely usable right now in my experience
AAs I type from my over $3,000 Framework 16 
... The laptop is more about the savings over time than the upfront cost. Theoretically if you buy into the ecosystem you will save money in the long run say when you would typically upgrade to a new laptop you don't actually need to do that. Just buy a new GPU or Mainboard. Don't need to buy an entire new chassis with screen, keyboard, GPU, Chassis, RAM, SSDs, ect. To just get a CPU upgrade for example.
... The laptop is more about the savings over time than the upfront cost. Theoretically if you buy into the ecosystem you will save money in the long run say when you would typically upgrade to a new laptop you don't actually need to do that. Just buy a new GPU or Mainboard. Don't need to buy an entire new chassis with screen, keyboard, GPU, Chassis, RAM, SSDs, ect. To just get a CPU upgrade for example.KWell, in my case my choice was purely price driven - but I am also somewhat wary of the GPU thing. I know Framework has proven themselves reliable with CPU mainboard upgrades. I trust that. But I've been burned by 'Upgradable Laptop GPUs' (CoughDellCough) before, and won't trust Framework to do that until another model does actually come out that's backwards compatible.
KBut that didnt factor into me not getting one at this time
