VPforce Controls•2y ago

Ok, but this is getting a little too real 😅

Ok, but this is getting a little too real

AAustringer Wondering about being able to make a stick with a mini stick

TheAmazinGreat•8/9/24, 3:02 AM

Yes, possible, requires an arduino in the grip. Either on its own if there are enough IOs or in tandem with the VPF shift register board. https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1185807510993637386

TTheAmazinGreat Yes, possible, requires an arduino in the grip. Either on its own if there are e...

Austringer•8/9/24, 4:31 AM

Thanks

Limitless VR & Simrigs•8/9/24, 6:01 AM

Hey crew, a quick question regarding the F4 Phantom in DCS with the Rhino and TFFB software, I have also tested this in the Mirage. Ok, so I am feeling forces on the stick with either pitch up or down and also if I roll 90 degrees and then pull back on the stick for a high g turn I experience a good solid force on the stick. I note however that during flight I am really not feeling any side to side forces. Almost like the only forces I feel are gforces on the forward back stick input. Both the Mirage and F4 are doing the same thing. At steady level flight, both air-frames feel very 'slippery' almost like I am just not feeling control surface resistance if that makes sense. Is this normal for those flight models? Any input would be appreciated.

RRationalBot Ok, but this is getting a little too real 😅

walmis•8/9/24, 6:28 AM

Hey, If you haven't already, fill out the order form - http://order.vpforce.eu - You should have received an invitation to order already

LLimitless VR & Simrigs Hey crew, a quick question regarding the F4 Phantom in DCS with the Rhino and TF...

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[OR] SerGeant•8/9/24, 6:50 AM

Yeah, the only feeling in the F-4 are bobweights on the pitch axis. The F-4 has a artificial feel system for pitch.
The roll axis has a Constant Spring load. There is no real feedback from the control surfaces.

In terms of the F-4, the overall forces are made a bit weak for use with the rhino.
Best way to solve the slippery feeling is to go to DCS special option and have a look in the F-4 options.
You can turn up FFB up to 500% for roll/pitch.
Mine are set so Roll 280% and pitch 190%.
This all with 95% spring set in VPconfig

[[OR] SerGeant Yeah, the only feeling in the F-4 are bobweights on the pitch axis. The F-4 has ...

Limitless VR & Simrigs•8/9/24, 7:26 AM

Great feedback thanks mate, Ok will have a play with those settings

LLimitless VR & Simrigs Great feedback thanks mate, Ok will have a play with those settings 🙂

LeLv30_Superbus•8/9/24, 8:11 AM

You can try playing with Spring force pitch axis in vpconf too if sim settings are not sufficient, here is mine:

LeLv30_Superbus•8/9/24, 8:12 AM

Roll (X-axis) is like that by default

LeLv30_Superbus•8/9/24, 8:14 AM

This is for Heatblur F-4E only as its feel system is special. TelemFFB can load .vpconf files automatically for each sim and aircraft and I recommend doing it.

LLeLv30_Superbus You can try playing with Spring force pitch axis in vpconf too if sim settings a...

Limitless VR & Simrigs•8/9/24, 8:23 AM

Oh mate this is perfect thank you, I will give this a try as well

LeLv30_Superbus•8/9/24, 8:24 AM

And as always with the Lead Sled: trim trim trim...

VPforceBot•8/9/24, 12:45 PM

:package:

RHINO #0663 Has Shipped!

RoboGeoff•8/9/24, 1:13 PM

Does the force feedback trim in the F-14 interfere with the autopilot? I feel like I'm fighting the autopilot when using the Rhino vs when I was using the Virpil T50CM2

Wwalmis Hey, If you haven't already, fill out the order form - http://order.vpforce.eu -...

Austringer•8/9/24, 1:43 PM

I went to the site yesterday and could not get to the url. I can get to the landing page but not to any of the sub pages

Bob Bushman•8/9/24, 1:46 PM

What subpages? its straight to the order form.

Wwalmis Hey, If you haven't already, fill out the order form - http://order.vpforce.eu -...

RationalBotOP•8/9/24, 2:23 PM

@walmis, I am actually trying to move back in the line, since I won't have any time to play DCS in the next 6 months

goobernoodles•8/9/24, 2:42 PM

Is there any way to know what position you were in when you first pre-ordered? I pre-ordered in Feb. and hadn't joined this discord until recently. I'm at #95 in the queue now - just trying to get an idea of how quickly/slowly it's been going.

goobernoodles•8/9/24, 2:42 PM

Or is there a rough number of units being shipped a month?

Alighierian•8/9/24, 3:07 PM

The original position is probably tricky to find out at this time, unless Walmis kept records of that.

For a rough indicator, you can have a look at this: https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1122080764163522571/1265701326478643322

SSolaceOneTwo howdy everyone, had a look around but I cant find anything. I'd like to run my ...

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𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀•8/9/24, 3:26 PM

You can even turn it just 90 degrees so the cables come out the side... then you just Swap the axes.

Reed•8/9/24, 4:49 PM

47 may be released today.

RReed 47 may be released today.

142nd_Bama•8/9/24, 5:07 PM

They sure are dragging out the patch….

Reed•8/9/24, 5:17 PM

Yup of course. I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t drop today

142nd_Bama•8/9/24, 5:25 PM

So far newy saying today

AndyHill•8/9/24, 5:30 PM

friday dump & run after a massive last minute crunch sounds like a recipe for success

Alighierian•8/9/24, 5:41 PM

I see no way that could possibly go wrong.

"Btw, 2-week company holiday starting next week."

Reed•8/9/24, 5:44 PM

What holiday

Alighierian•8/9/24, 5:45 PM

just a general dig at that kind of dump&run.

Bonus points if a dev does it prior to new year's seasonal holidays, so 'people can enjoy the new patch'

AAndyHill friday dump & run after a massive last minute crunch sounds like a recipe for su...

Bob Bushman•8/9/24, 5:51 PM

Welcome, you must be new.

BBob Bushman What subpages? its straight to the order form.

Austringer•8/9/24, 7:48 PM

There is a home page and the order form is a sub page of the main page.

Austringer•8/9/24, 7:50 PM

Vpforcecontrols.com being the main page.

Austringer•8/9/24, 7:50 PM

Either way it appears to be fixed now

RRoboGeoff Does the force feedback trim in the F-14 interfere with the autopilot? I feel li...

Jaeger•8/9/24, 8:07 PM

Nope, all fine in that department. Things go wonky if you go into back seat and then back to front, but if you stay in the front, everything except ACLS (HB bug) works fine FFB wise.

AAlighierian The original position is probably tricky to find out at this time, unless Walmis...

goobernoodles•8/9/24, 9:55 PM

Thanks - that was helpful

RoboGeoff•8/10/24, 3:27 AM

oh. THere's FFB trim box I think you need to check in the F-14 special tab

bert•8/10/24, 6:19 AM

Anyone here who tried the DCS Chinnook yet? Trying to set up controls right now, but i'm not getting any spring forces.

Scarlet•8/10/24, 6:35 AM

from what I've seen, there is no FFB support yet

SScarlet from what I've seen, there is no FFB support yet

bert•8/10/24, 7:36 AM

Can't wait to have it added in a few years then lol

SScarlet from what I've seen, there is no FFB support yet

Caprice•8/10/24, 8:20 AM

Just to clarify you mean there is no FFB support in DCS?

CCaprice Just to clarify you mean there is no FFB support in DCS?

Dracks•8/10/24, 8:27 AM

For the Chinnook. Other modules in DCS have FFB support (if I understand your question)

Bbert Anyone here who tried the DCS Chinnook yet? Trying to set up controls right now,...

LeLv30_Superbus•8/10/24, 8:32 AM

Setting up controls rn... "cool I have 3 extra hats in my cyclic grip"

... (glances left in the cockpit) there are SEVEN hats in Hook's ~~collective~~ thrust lever and there's another grip with even more hats next to it

"I need a new collective

or two

LeLv30_Superbus•8/10/24, 8:35 AM

TelemFFB has basic support whatever it means, I'll test spring forces now

TrigaNZ•8/10/24, 8:39 AM

Using the trim button doubles the trim asked for instead of holding current position.

TTrigaNZ Using the trim button doubles the trim asked for instead of holding current posi...

LeLv30_Superbus•8/10/24, 9:14 AM

So you're getting a centering force? I couldn't figure it out yet.

LLeLv30_Superbus So you're getting a centering force? I couldn't figure it out yet.

TrigaNZ•8/10/24, 9:21 AM

A bit, not as much as other choppers. The trim doubling is annoying.

Reed•8/10/24, 10:29 AM

I am barly getting any centering force and the double trim is crap.

RReed I am barly getting any centering force and the double trim is crap.

slowmover•8/10/24, 10:43 AM

I think double trim is a problem with cyclic that trim and goes to center position.

Number481•8/10/24, 11:26 AM

The only way is to not bind the trim button in the game (it only understands sprung joystick logic) and then use either the hardware trim in configurator or, if you are using it, the hardware trim in TelemFFB.

If you have the trim button bound in the game it will double the inputs since it expects the joystick to be sprung and thinks you are going to let the stick go back to center after you have pushed the trim button.

SamNFTY•8/10/24, 2:02 PM

Enjoy your vacation!

NNumber481 The only way is to *not* bind the trim button in the game (it only understands s...

Reed•8/10/24, 5:10 PM

Yup. I’ll use override trim for now

Ok, but this is getting a little too real 😅

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