Wasn't Nvidia in the 5000 already or something?
Wasn't Nvidia in the 5000 already or something?
VDepends on your budget
Pthey are in the limelight right now because it means people hanging onto their ten year old hardware still have a shot at playing games made for the next ten years of hardware
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ZAnyway but yeah, everyone is Nvidia this Nvidia that, so almost never heard of AMD cards
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GA stopgap solution to a problem they created, isn't really much of a defense of it though. I hear people talk about the generational difference all the time- But in reality it's entirely bullshit. And you can tell because every time these companies talk about it it's like oh in the next gen we'll have more power. Then the "next gen" arrives, and everything is still an issue. Games locked to 30 fps, games downscaled way below native. The reality is if a studio thinks they can save money by leaning on those crutches, they will every time.
Pif you own a super hardcore bleeding edge system you literally will not have to think about DLSS or framegen etc. in the next 5 years
VIntel execs humiliation kink gone too far when they realise this time they might actually crash the company
GExcept that's not true. To max out quite a few modern games even on a 4090 you need DLSS
GMostly due to games offering some ridiculous total path tracing mode granted
Pdid you miss the very last 3 words of this sentence
DNot yet, 4090 is still the highest. And in 5 years, we get to finally use the Vegeta DBZ meme.
Pand this is full of shit. nvidia didn't "create this problem". the reason we need these stopgaps is because artists are looking for a solution to lighting problems that are fundamental to how renderers have been developed for the last 30 years
Praytracing isn't some new fancy shit
GThe next years?
Pdon't be intellectually dishonest
KYouTubeWinElchtest
www.qwrt.de - Video of a ray traced version of Enemy Territory: QUAKE Wars. The ray traced port has been done by the Intel ray tracing research group.
KReal-time frame rates, 16 years ago
KGranted I think this was on larabee
KAnd that died to death
KAnd took project offset with it, Intel I'll never forgive you
Pthe entire fucking point is that modern day artists want their lighting model to work naturally and not require 500 hours of fucking around to make every scene look acceptable
GThat water looks crazy for the time.
Pwe are developing the hardware capabilities to do this
Pnvidia's raytracing cores are not some kind of special proprietary shit either, all they do is run simd operations
Pamd are on the backfoot because instead of dedicating space to that they will just use regular compute operations to the same effect
GDamn that really sucks, because modern gamers want to not need a 800 dollar GPU to play games
Pright
Pso play different games
Por buy a machine that can handle games that you will play ten years from now
Plike a playstation 5
Pthere isn't some irony in this
KRetracing will be here one day, I just find it to be dishonest we're running games at a quarter or less the resolution on $1,000 GPUs to get playable framerates
ZGames that requires ray tracing stuff doesn't feel like is done to last
Pyour ten year old hardware is still fine for 99% of games and raytracing isn't some boogieman
KOr, worse, implementing half measures where only some effects are ray traced
Pit's too early but you can't fault artists and developers too much if they're going to end up being forced into learning to work with the tech anyway
Pwe're not talking about 30 years away anymore
BI never really used the ray tracing thing 
granted I don't think it dramatically improves the games I typically play anyways.
granted I don't think it dramatically improves the games I typically play anyways.Pit's like ten years and we're going to have the same cycle we have every other ten years
Pwhere "oh wow the GPUs are getting OP omg guys!!!!"
Peverybody shit their pants over the titan and the 1080 and the 2080ti super or whatever tf they call them at this point'
Pare we really gonna act like shit isn't picking up speed
MI like upscaling tech I don't really care much for framegen tho
Pi find upscaling is ok to play around with when i don't like the AA some games provide
Pi prefer to just run stuff at native 4k though :v
Pno AA
GYeah I think this was the major issue. Like I don't care if people want to include ray tracing but if it decimates performance to such a degree then what's the point
Pthe point is they're doing it for their own good this time around
Pat some level you have to pick a team and if they want to pick team "not learn 30 year old shit if i don't have to" then fuck yeah why not
