@Hiob has a stubby version of the stick connector STL that he posted recently, probably in the diy-b

@Hiob has a stubby version of the stick connector STL that he posted recently, probably in the diy-builds channel. I plan to use it soon, but you should ask him how it is to operate.

SSpelljammer1 I'm thinking since I will be installing a metal threaded connector, I may as wel...

Austringer•8/31/24, 3:42 AM

Why as a side stick?

DDARRYL @Hiob has a stubby version of the stick connector STL that he posted recently, p...

Hiob•8/31/24, 6:50 AM

What do you mean, how to operate?
It is one piece opposed to the two piece assembly of the Rhino, about 6cm shorter effectively IIRC. The only thing you have to take into account is, that the thread connector sits on the hight of the throw limiter. So the throw is limited even further unless you modify the throw limiter and make it wider (which is no problem though).
A FFB as a sidestick is a soso idea in my opinion as well. Every Aircraft that REALLY profits big time from FFB (warbirds, helicopters, steam punk) has a central mounted stick with s long throw. Sidesticks are only found in FBW jets like the F-16 or A320. If asked, I wouldn‘t recommend it.
But of course everybody is free to do as he likes!

HHiob What do you mean, how to operate? It is one piece opposed to the two piece asse...

DARRYLOP•8/31/24, 6:52 AM

I said how it is to operate, not how to operate it. Which you answered.

Hiob•8/31/24, 6:53 AM

Hiob•8/31/24, 6:56 AM

I don’t use it as an overall „short“ stick though, but to try to keep the total length at bay while using a 20cm gooseneck extension.

DARRYLOP•8/31/24, 7:04 AM

Good point, I guess that's my plan too. Just shorten overall length a bit to prevent my 200mm s-curve extension from being too much. A shorty sidestick is another beast altogether. I had originally planned on buying a MOZA (which is a "stubby" already), but changed my mind as I learned more about my options.

DDARRYL Good point, I guess that's my plan too. Just shorten overall length a bit to pre...

Hiob•8/31/24, 7:12 AM

Depending on how your extension is build, you can shorten that too. Mine was a bent aluminium tube with some machined parts that were screwed in with two screws each. I just disassembled it, cut the tube 15mm on one end (as much as possible before the curve), drilled a new hole and reassembled.

HHiob Click to see attachment

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 7:33 AM

This looks like the solution for me! Maybe I need to edit it a little bit so it is not exactly threads hitting the throw limiter, but a tiny bit below them. Do you mind sharing the file?

AAustringer Why as a side stick?

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 7:35 AM

I swap between side stick and centerstick. Mainly cockpit reasons for side stick. Irrelevant however: easier to add extensions when you need length for the center stick. Problems with height emerge when mounting a taller stick on the side-stick-mounted OG Rhino. So I'd rather address that, looks like it is @Hiob to the rescue!

SSpelljammer1 This looks like the solution for me! Maybe I need to edit it a little bit so it ...

Hiob•8/31/24, 7:37 AM

I can give you the STL (sorry, I have no parametric cad file for it), but I think I made it as short as possible without compromising any function or strength.

Hiob•8/31/24, 7:38 AM

I can give you a file for a one-piece throw limiter as well….

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 7:38 AM

This little DIY helps with adjusting the table clamp between centre and side position. The wheels are lockable from Monstertech chair spares. (The clamp above provides the most stability, this is just support and oscillation block. The desk moves up and down, this is also why this adjustment with scissor-lab-equipment was needed.)

HHiob I can give you the STL (sorry, I have no parametric cad file for it), but I thin...

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 7:38 AM

Awesome, STL is already great!

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 7:38 AM

saved me a ton of time

SSpelljammer1 Awesome, STL is already great!

Hiob•8/31/24, 7:43 AM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1272939376506044539

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 7:47 AM

I'm curious if you had a phase in your project saved while it was still a two-piece solution like the OG Rhino?

I ask because I already have the metal connector from Walmis, so I might as well rather attach it to a version of a shorter stem (your stubby project).

SSpelljammer1 I'm curious if you had a phase in your project saved while it was still a two-pi...

Hiob•8/31/24, 9:05 AM

That‘s the problem, the metal connector is connected via a square-tube insert in the stem. In order to give it enough strength the gimbal part needs to be a certain length. Or in other words, if you want it shorter a meaningful amount, you HAVE to make it a single piece.

SSpelljammer1 I'm curious if you had a phase in your project saved while it was still a two-pi...

Hiob•8/31/24, 9:08 AM

…but yeah, I probably have the STLs of an in between step somewhere - need to search for it

HHiob That‘s the problem, the metal connector is connected via a square-tube insert in...

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 10:55 AM

ah I see, makes sense, got it now

HHiob …but yeah, I probably have the STLs of an in between step somewhere - need to se...

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 10:55 AM

awesome, shoot it when you stumble upon it, no rush

SSpelljammer1 Is it possible to shorten the stem of the Rhino base connector, or is it mechani...

walmis•8/31/24, 3:36 PM

Yes it's possible to shorten the stem. The stock Rhino has 20mm square aluminum tube of 100mm length. It's possible to swap out a shorter one of the desired size (though the leather part might need tweaking for a shorter stem). If you need one, you can shoot me a DM, we could make a custom one

Hiob•8/31/24, 4:30 PM

I wasn’t aware that the square tube in the stock Rhino is longer than in the Kit by Winger. Interesting. The more you know….

Wwalmis Yes it's possible to shorten the stem. The stock Rhino has 20mm square aluminum ...

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 6:21 PM

That's superb.

I'll reach out with the measurements when I get back, travelling now so don't have access to the beloved Rhino.

HHiob I wasn’t aware that the square tube in the stock Rhino is longer than in the Kit...

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•8/31/24, 6:41 PM

Yep. I Made it intentional shorter to have the User steer height via extension

SSR-F_Winger_[73]_David Yep. I Made it intentional shorter to have the User steer height via extension

Hiob•8/31/24, 6:49 PM

good call!

SSR-F_Winger_[73]_David Yep. I Made it intentional shorter to have the User steer height via extension

Spelljammer1•8/31/24, 9:37 PM

yeah good move! that would be helpful for my use case where the Rhino shifts between center and side stick position. more adjustability on the extension side is indeed purposeful

SSpelljammer1 yeah good move! that would be helpful for my use case where the Rhino shifts bet...

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•9/1/24, 6:02 AM

If you're going the diy Route... @kaltokri AFAIK has Kits in Stock. Contact @kaltokri If you want one

SSR-F_Winger_[73]_David If you're going the diy Route... @kaltokri AFAIK has Kits in Stock. Contact @kal...

Spelljammer1•9/1/24, 8:18 AM

Thanks for the info, I already have the Walmis' Rhino

I'll try to adjust that one to better fit my needs first.

SSpelljammer1 Thanks for the info, I already have the Walmis' Rhino 🙂 I'll try to adjust tha...

Hiob•9/1/24, 8:47 AM

Well, if you break something in the process you can always repair it with the help of the DIYer stuff….

HHiob Well, if you break something in the process you can always repair it with the he...

Spelljammer1•9/1/24, 9:13 AM

Oh absolutely! Big DIY fan here

But force feedback motors still feel out of my range. Stems, on the other hand...

Spelljammer1•9/1/24, 9:14 AM

I'm more of a Frankenstick guy myself

HHiob Well, if you break something in the process you can always repair it with the he...

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•9/1/24, 10:45 AM

thats the beauty of the rhino IMHO.

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•9/1/24, 10:45 AM

or rather ONE of the many beauties;)

VPforceBot•9/2/24, 8:30 AM

:package:

RHINO #0675 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•9/2/24, 12:42 PM

:package:

RHINO #0676 Has Shipped!

Bull•9/2/24, 2:49 PM

What is the current waiting times for a rhino? 1 year? 2?

Alighierian•9/2/24, 2:52 PM

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AAlighierian !status

VPforceBot•9/2/24, 2:52 PM

Hey @Alighierian,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0675 on 2024-09-02
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 207 days, median is 207 days, max is 437 days
662 Rhinos are shipped in total