HWhat do you mean, how to operate?
It is one piece opposed to the two piece assembly of the Rhino, about 6cm shorter effectively IIRC. The only thing you have to take into account is, that the thread connector sits on the hight of the throw limiter. So the throw is limited even further unless you modify the throw limiter and make it wider (which is no problem though).
A FFB as a sidestick is a soso idea in my opinion as well. Every Aircraft that REALLY profits big time from FFB (warbirds, helicopters, steam punk) has a central mounted stick with s long throw. Sidesticks are only found in FBW jets like the F-16 or A320. If asked, I wouldn‘t recommend it.
But of course everybody is free to do as he likes!
It is one piece opposed to the two piece assembly of the Rhino, about 6cm shorter effectively IIRC. The only thing you have to take into account is, that the thread connector sits on the hight of the throw limiter. So the throw is limited even further unless you modify the throw limiter and make it wider (which is no problem though).
A FFB as a sidestick is a soso idea in my opinion as well. Every Aircraft that REALLY profits big time from FFB (warbirds, helicopters, steam punk) has a central mounted stick with s long throw. Sidesticks are only found in FBW jets like the F-16 or A320. If asked, I wouldn‘t recommend it.
But of course everybody is free to do as he likes!
DI said how it is to operate, not how to operate it. Which you answered.
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HI don’t use it as an overall „short“ stick though, but to try to keep the total length at bay while using a 20cm gooseneck extension.
DGood point, I guess that's my plan too. Just shorten overall length a bit to prevent my 200mm s-curve extension from being too much. A shorty sidestick is another beast altogether. I had originally planned on buying a MOZA (which is a "stubby" already), but changed my mind as I learned more about my options.
HDepending on how your extension is build, you can shorten that too. Mine was a bent aluminium tube with some machined parts that were screwed in with two screws each. I just disassembled it, cut the tube 15mm on one end (as much as possible before the curve), drilled a new hole and reassembled.
SThis looks like the solution for me! Maybe I need to edit it a little bit so it is not exactly threads hitting the throw limiter, but a tiny bit below them. Do you mind sharing the file?
SI swap between side stick and centerstick. Mainly cockpit reasons for side stick. Irrelevant however: easier to add extensions when you need length for the center stick. Problems with height emerge when mounting a taller stick on the side-stick-mounted OG Rhino. So I'd rather address that, looks like it is @Hiob to the rescue!
HI can give you the STL (sorry, I have no parametric cad file for it), but I think I made it as short as possible without compromising any function or strength.
HI can give you a file for a one-piece throw limiter as well….
SThis little DIY helps with adjusting the table clamp between centre and side position. The wheels are lockable from Monstertech chair spares. (The clamp above provides the most stability, this is just support and oscillation block. The desk moves up and down, this is also why this adjustment with scissor-lab-equipment was needed.)
SAwesome, STL is already great!
Ssaved me a ton of time
SI'm curious if you had a phase in your project saved while it was still a two-piece solution like the OG Rhino?
I ask because I already have the metal connector from Walmis, so I might as well rather attach it to a version of a shorter stem (your stubby project).
I ask because I already have the metal connector from Walmis, so I might as well rather attach it to a version of a shorter stem (your stubby project).
HThat‘s the problem, the metal connector is connected via a square-tube insert in the stem. In order to give it enough strength the gimbal part needs to be a certain length. Or in other words, if you want it shorter a meaningful amount, you HAVE to make it a single piece.
H…but yeah, I probably have the STLs of an in between step somewhere - need to search for it
Sah I see, makes sense, got it now
Sawesome, shoot it when you stumble upon it, no rush 
WYes it's possible to shorten the stem. The stock Rhino has 20mm square aluminum tube of 100mm length. It's possible to swap out a shorter one of the desired size (though the leather part might need tweaking for a shorter stem). If you need one, you can shoot me a DM, we could make a custom one
HI wasn’t aware that the square tube in the stock Rhino is longer than in the Kit by Winger. Interesting. The more you know….
SThat's superb. 
I'll reach out with the measurements when I get back, travelling now so don't have access to the beloved Rhino.
I'll reach out with the measurements when I get back, travelling now so don't have access to the beloved Rhino.![SR-F_Winger_[73]_David](https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/98037306870472704/f924b51d2e4486c1eb873c2f4fb7f6a3.webp?size=40)
SYep. I Made it intentional shorter to have the User steer height via extension
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Hgood call!
Syeah good move! that would be helpful for my use case where the Rhino shifts between center and side stick position. more adjustability on the extension side is indeed purposeful
SIf you're going the diy Route... @kaltokri AFAIK has Kits in Stock. Contact @kaltokri If you want one
SThanks for the info, I already have the Walmis' Rhino
I'll try to adjust that one to better fit my needs first.
I'll try to adjust that one to better fit my needs first.
HWell, if you break something in the process you can always repair it with the help of the DIYer stuff….
SOh absolutely! Big DIY fan here 
But force feedback motors still feel out of my range. Stems, on the other hand...
But force feedback motors still feel out of my range. Stems, on the other hand...SI'm more of a Frankenstick guy myself
Sthats the beauty of the rhino IMHO.
Sor rather ONE of the many beauties;)
V:package: 
RHINO #0675 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0675 Has Shipped!V:package: 
RHINO #0676 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0676 Has Shipped!
BWhat is the current waiting times for a rhino? 1 year? 2?
A!status
VHey @Alighierian,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0675 on 2024-09-02
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 207 days, median is 207 days, max is 437 days
662 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0675 on 2024-09-02
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 207 days, median is 207 days, max is 437 days
662 Rhinos are shipped in total
AMy base just shipped today #675, I got on the list 2/2
BThanks!
AReview in a couple months
FStoked to get mine when it’s finally time
AI'm so excited to get going I have SO MUCH learning to do
HHHA short maybe, or a loose connection?
HHmmmm. The strange thing is that it occurs only when the board is DC powered.
HI’ll check the connections
SFLCS modded to fit TM/Rhino?
HSimple TM grip on rhino board
WAnother fifty just dropped out the last few days I see, thanks guys. . Really hoping I can get mine in November ready for FS2024’s release. 
. Really hoping I can get mine in November ready for FS2024’s release.