Also, DCS was not like this before today. It was perfectly centered. I used a AH-64 profile in here

Also, DCS was not like this before today. It was perfectly centered. I used a AH-64 profile in here which really seems to fly nicely in the Apache. But after going back to any of my fast jet profiles the trim center is off in the stick forward orientation

GGreekbull Also, DCS was not like this before today. It was perfectly centered. I used a A...

walmis•9/2/24, 6:16 AM

Depends on the aircraft and special settings in DCS... A-10C, F-5 modules have trim displacement forwards for example.
You can search in this discord, there were multiple discussions regarding this topic

Wwalmis Depends on the aircraft and special settings in DCS... A-10C, F-5 modules have t...

GreekbullOP•9/2/24, 6:19 AM

Ok I’ll try and find it thanks. It’s just odd since I never changed any settings in DCS. Just was making adjustments in Configurator and Telemffb

GGreekbull Ok I’ll try and find it thanks. It’s just odd since I never changed any setting...

Hiob•9/2/24, 8:24 AM

Are we talking woth this offset trim while DCS is running or not? I'm a bit confused. When you want to calibrate the hardware, neither DCS or TelemFFB should be running. Just the configurator. From there, after calibrating -> applying -> saving, the stick should be perfectly centered.

Hiob•9/2/24, 8:25 AM

Then - inside DCS, it depends very much on the airframe. Most old school jets have the stick trimmed forward for level flight at cruising+ speeds. That's normal. Same for Helicopters of course.

Hiob•9/2/24, 8:27 AM

Maybe you confuse the old "non-FFB" return to center trim in the sim, but that was only a work-around for spring centered, non-FFB-Joysticks.

Hiob•9/2/24, 8:30 AM

Basically, for classic joysticks, the logical (simulated) stick position was detached from the physical stick position. That being no longer necessary is one of the perks of FFB sticks.

Henning Piez•9/2/24, 9:41 AM

what does "FBB_Remove Effect" Mean in the Debug Screen?

walmis•9/2/24, 9:45 AM

It's when a game or telemFFB destroys an FFB effect

Henning Piez•9/2/24, 11:03 AM

so no reason to worry of to trobleshoot?

GGreekbull Ok I’ll try and find it thanks. It’s just odd since I never changed any setting...

TheAmazinGreat•9/2/24, 11:31 AM

It’s modeling real life behavior of jets. There is less forward travel because negative G maneuvers are frowned upon. So there is more positive G travel to “roll and pull”.

Kite•9/2/24, 11:48 AM

As I understand it, it's frowned upon by everyone who has ever tried a lot of negative G's.

TTheAmazinGreat It’s modeling real life behavior of jets. There is less forward travel because n...

GreekbullOP•9/2/24, 3:53 PM

I get that but I somehow messed this up. I know that you need to trim forward travel. I did run the calibrate with Telemffb and DCS on so maybe that's how i messed it up. I could always do that with my Virpil base. I'm just trying to figure out how in the heck I can undo this because even with DCS and Telemffb turned off it's still trying to give me that trim center blue circle way forward which is totally wrong. Is there anyway I can just reset everything?

GGreekbull I get that but I somehow messed this up. I know that you need to trim forward t...

Number481•9/2/24, 4:05 PM

did you inadvertently change the center point using the hardware trim feature? What happens if you press the bound (or bind and press) the reset button?

NNumber481 did you inadvertently change the center point using the hardware trim feature? ...

GreekbullOP•9/2/24, 4:10 PM

That was it! Thank You!!!

Reed•9/2/24, 4:44 PM

Best customer service of any manufacturer

Hiob•9/2/24, 5:18 PM

@Number481 is the MVP!

Col. Sanders•9/3/24, 5:12 AM

I think I messed up my rhino. When I was moving it on its mount. I dropped it, not very far but it hit hard. When I fly and the buffeting effect turns on it bucks hard and feels out of balance. I had not changed any settings. Tried turning the buffeting effect way down and as long as it turns on it causes the issue.

Col. Sanders•9/3/24, 5:14 AM

I have taken the top off and the gimble looks fine and I can't see anything obvious. I'm hesitant to tear it down further. Without knowing what I am looking for.

Col. Sanders•9/3/24, 5:25 AM

Also found this tip broke.

Col. Sanders•9/3/24, 5:25 AM

Col. Sanders•9/3/24, 5:26 AM

The plastic ring on the inside broke. So it looks like I need a new power supply. Any recommendations for the US?

CCol. Sanders The plastic ring on the inside broke. So it looks like I need a new power supply...

walmis•9/3/24, 5:56 AM

No need to replace the whole power supply (e-waste and all), you can replace only the jack: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=5.5+2.5+dc+plug

Amazon.com: 5.5 2.5 Dc Plug

Amazon.com: 5.5 2.5 dc plug

Wwalmis No need to replace the whole power supply (e-waste and all), you can replace onl...

Col. Sanders•9/3/24, 6:15 AM

I will look into this. Any ideas on the buffeting issues?

CCol. Sanders I think I messed up my rhino. When I was moving it on its mount. I dropped it, n...

Hiob•9/3/24, 6:41 AM

Everything else feels normal? No grinding, no cracking noises etc. ? Can’t think of a reason why only one certain effect could cause issues….. Checked the settings? (in config and telem!)

Henning Piez•9/3/24, 3:46 PM

Telemffb needs an Config file to use the settings.... In the Settings Page I selected a standard profile that should be loaded at startup.... But.... When starting the sim, the stick is passiv... only acts like a spring / Damper.... If I select / load the same profile in the planes dialog the stick comes alive... why?

HHenning Piez Telemffb needs an Config file to use the settings.... In the Settings Page I sel...

Number481•9/3/24, 4:16 PM

I don't fully understand what you are asking. You don't say the sim, but I'll assume DCS.

Taking TelemFFB out of the equation here (all it's doing is pushing a saved profile to the joystick)....

DCS "takes over" the spring effect during startup, this is why your stick goes limp when the sim is loading. It takes ownership of the spring effect and sets the gain to 0.

When you load into an aircraft, the FFB implementation for that aircraft will set the gain of the effect to whatever it should be based on the phase of flight you load into.

When you exit back out to the main menu, the stick generally goes back to a springless state.

Scorpio•9/3/24, 6:12 PM

I have had this on and off since the beginning:

Scorpio•9/3/24, 6:12 PM

Scorpio•9/3/24, 6:13 PM

There is no Sim running and here are my settings

Scorpio•9/3/24, 6:15 PM

Scorpio•9/3/24, 6:16 PM

I can get it to run ok, when I turn down the gain, but in DCS, any periodic effect will kick it off again. Any ideas?

walmis•9/3/24, 6:17 PM

Try reducing "spring strength proportional damping" and you can try lowering the damper LPF to 6Hz

walmis•9/3/24, 6:18 PM

I suspect the 3d printed extension is not rigid enough for high damper gains

Scorpio•9/3/24, 6:20 PM

Thanks for the quick reply! I set "spring strength proportional damping" to 90% and damper LPF to 6 Hz.

Scorpio•9/3/24, 6:20 PM

It is much smoother; I'll give it a run

Scorpio•9/3/24, 6:21 PM

I also had this happen before I added the extension.

Scorpio•9/3/24, 7:52 PM

After a couple hours flying Apache, it seems to have solved it. Thanks @walmis !

frumpy•9/5/24, 5:11 AM

Hi, I am looking for a X-Plane/MSFS airplane, where the autopilot following works well. So far, I am always having increasing oscillation issues. I want to turn on the ALT or HDG knob and see the magic. Does this work for any of you? On which plane?

SuperStrayan•9/5/24, 6:27 AM

Why is my configurator constantly pulling the master gain to 50% for no reason? Has anyone else had this?

SSuperStrayan Why is my configurator constantly pulling the master gain to 50% for no reason? ...

walmis•9/5/24, 6:28 AM

Possibly you could have sliders configured in telemFFB and it automatically sets the configured values. Without further context hard to tell

SuperStrayan•9/5/24, 6:33 AM

I don’t have any sliders set in ffb that would be causing this. Do you know which ones might be the culprit?

SuperStrayan•9/5/24, 6:33 AM

Doing it both in fs2020, and in dcs

SuperStrayan•9/5/24, 6:34 AM

Like even the tf51 profile does it, it wasn’t doing it on my other computer

walmis•9/5/24, 6:35 AM

Try running without telemFFB and see if the settings stay. If so telemFFB is loading a profile somewhere.

SuperStrayan•9/5/24, 6:41 AM

So telemffb appears to be the cause, how do I fix it?

SSuperStrayan So telemffb appears to be the cause, how do I fix it?

walmis•9/5/24, 6:44 AM

make sure slider overrides are not activated in telemFFB

SSuperStrayan So telemffb appears to be the cause, how do I fix it?

Number481•9/5/24, 12:14 PM

Hard to say without knowing the exact process you are following and when it is changing (you can watch the configurator slider to see exactly when it changes). However...

Today, TelemFFB attempts to leave the gains in exactly the same state in which it found it when it was started. Upon startup, the gains are read from the base. When you exit TelemFFB, it reapplies those gains. This means that if you start TelemFFB with a slider set at %50, then realize you want it at %100 and change it manually, TelemFFB will set it back to %50 when it exits.

In the next version, this functionality will be placed behind a system setting rather than being the default behavior. It can be useful, but can lead to confusing results if you don't know its happening.

PokePoke•9/5/24, 4:22 PM

report about il2

spring force of some planes is too low, it feels like almost there is no ffb while other effects working absolutely fine.

and I found that I cannot raise spring force gain because it is already 100%.

and master gain is already 100%

and spring force of some other planes are strong enough.

for example - tempest, spitfire vb is too low

t152h, il2 is strong enough

I think it need to be fixed. all other ffb is working fine. only spring force is the issue. Thanks.

PPokePoke report about il2 spring force of some planes is too low, it feels like almost ...

Number481•9/5/24, 4:35 PM

This should be raised with the IL2 devs. IL2 has native FFB, meaning the spring forces are generated by the sim. A given FFB base just "does what its told" in this regard.

Col. Sanders•9/5/24, 11:31 PM

I took my rhino apart some and am reassembling now. I did not realize the pulley gears had a couple longer screws. Does anyone know which spot the longer screws go?

Also, DCS was not like this before today. It was perfectly centered. I used a AH-64 profile in here

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