Is it possible to upgrade the motors in the Rhino? DCS WWII fighters , the stick gets real soft afte

Is it possible to upgrade the motors in the Rhino? DCS WWII fighters , the stick gets real soft after a while dogfighting, and the fans turn ON. More powerful motors should help with tis issue.

II/JG7_Moto Is it possible to upgrade the motors in the Rhino? DCS WWII fighters , the stick...

TheAmazinGreat•10/8/24, 7:47 PM

Not possible in the stock housing, requires an upsized case. https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1284569338996850828

Cynemi•10/8/24, 7:52 PM

Can someone explain what I need to tick to make hardware trim work in dcs, trying it out on the viggen and the stick moves the wrong way when I trim. VKB grip.

TTheAmazinGreat Not possible in the stock housing, requires an upsized case. https://discord.com...

I/JG7_MotoOP•10/8/24, 7:53 PM

Bummer, so will need to sell mine and buy a Monster Rhino , have you tried the stronger motors? worth it?

CCynemi Can someone explain what I need to tick to make hardware trim work in dcs, tryin...

Cynemi•10/8/24, 7:53 PM

Cant find it in the manual

CCynemi Can someone explain what I need to tick to make hardware trim work in dcs, tryin...

Col. Sanders•10/8/24, 7:59 PM

What do you mean hardware trim in the Viggen?

CCol. Sanders What do you mean hardware trim in the Viggen?

Cynemi•10/8/24, 8:02 PM

I mean, when I trim nose down, the stick travels backwards, and becuase everything is off center after trimming, the "autopilot" cant be engaged, since letting go of the stick will command nose up or down if you have used any trim

Col. Sanders•10/8/24, 8:02 PM

Sound like you trim bindings are backwards

Cynemi•10/8/24, 8:04 PM

They are good ingame, any way to flip them in the rhino sw then?

Col. Sanders•10/8/24, 8:06 PM

What else did you change in DCS or Vpconfig? This is not the normal usage. I just trim like normally and my stick follows

II/JG7_Moto Bummer, so will need to sell mine and buy a Monster Rhino , have you tried the s...

TheAmazinGreat•10/8/24, 8:09 PM

I have, but have never tried the standard Rhino to compare to. The regular 60/15 gear ratio of the monster makes it about 1.7x more torque than the standard Rhino but I recently upgraded to 72/15 which is just a hair over 2x the torque of the standard Rhino.

TheAmazinGreat•10/8/24, 8:10 PM

The Winger kits are in fact kits though, so you do have to assemble yourself. Plus buy the 86 series motors from Walmis.

CCynemi They are good ingame, any way to flip them in the rhino sw then?

TheAmazinGreat•10/8/24, 8:11 PM

Make sure if you are inverting your pitch axis that it is inverted in the VPForce configurator. And not inverted in DCS.

CCynemi They are good ingame, any way to flip them in the rhino sw then?

Col. Sanders•10/8/24, 8:18 PM

Able to fix it?

Cynemi•10/8/24, 8:19 PM

I tried the F4, there everything works out of the box. But for the viggen the stick moves the wrong way when trimming

CCynemi They are good ingame, any way to flip them in the rhino sw then?

Number481•10/8/24, 8:29 PM

1.) Make sure your axes move correctly in configurator. If one or both are backwards, invert them in configurator, not the sim.
2.) if the trim is backwards for an aircraft, invert the axis in the FF Tune for that axis. Pretty sure the F5 x axis needs this treatment, there are probably others I don’t know about.

NNumber481 1.) Make sure your axes move correctly in configurator. If one or both are backw...

Cynemi•10/8/24, 8:31 PM

What are we talking abouth ere ? FF tune? Is that Telem FFB?

Cynemi•10/8/24, 8:32 PM

Im reading something about inverting FFB axis in DCS. But I can not find any options for that in the game

Number481•10/8/24, 8:35 PM

That’s cause DCS retarded. You have to uncheck the “foldable view” in the controls binding, then you will see the FF Tune button

NNumber481 That’s cause DCS retarded. You have to uncheck the “foldable view” in the contro...

Hiob•10/8/24, 8:37 PM

Hey. It is. Still it deserves love!

Number481•10/8/24, 8:40 PM

Tough love

NNumber481 That’s cause DCS retarded. You have to uncheck the “foldable view” in the contro...

Cynemi•10/8/24, 8:40 PM

Ok down at the bottom, after you have selected the regular axis inside

Cynemi•10/8/24, 8:41 PM

Never know those options exsited really

Cynemi•10/8/24, 8:41 PM

Thanks a lot, now it works fine

Kkaltokri The F/A-18C in DCS has no asymmetric y axis. I have that problem with the A-10CI...

Daedalus•10/8/24, 9:21 PM

Are you sure this is the case. Maybe Im not describing in correctly. Sorry for the warped view from VR. The control indicator has more travel on the bottom than the top. I seem to have sorted it out with some axis rescaling. Is there a way to have it just set the neutral position like the F5 does? without having to tweak the axis scaling for different aircraft?

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AArew Update on this issue - happened while not running Configurator but has not happe...

Number481•10/8/24, 9:39 PM

Send over your TelemFFB config if you want, here or DM me (Help->Create Support Bundle).

Did you verify if it is the actual in-game trim that is running away? Should be able to see the trim position moving un-commanded if that is the issue

Arew•10/8/24, 9:46 PM

Yes, last time it was full nose down trim and that trim indicator was all the way at the top

Arew•10/8/24, 9:46 PM

I'll send it to you tonight after class

AArew Yes, last time it was full nose down trim and that trim indicator was all the wa...

Number481•10/8/24, 9:57 PM

Hmm. Yeah, there’s nothing in TelemFFB that sets the trim. Even if you were using the hardware trim in the spring override feature, that doesn’t change the trim value…only the spring center.

I don’t even think it’s possible to externally set the trim in DCS.

Send over your Telem config anyway and I’ll have a look at it.

Arew•10/8/24, 9:58 PM

Wonder if something in my DCS install is corrupted then because I even deleted the keyboard trim bindings just to be sure there was nothing else that could input

*NOB*Aries•10/9/24, 9:12 AM

Guys... did anyone design a plastic cover for the front cable & power connectors...?
I already stumbled over those protruding cables and it's gonna get wrecked if I do it again...

kaltokri•10/9/24, 9:38 AM

I turned my Rhino, so the connectors are on the backside.
Also you can buy angled usb & power cable/adapters. This helps, too.
I didn't see a cover for them here.

VPS_Choki•10/9/24, 1:10 PM

so after adding force comp. my stick starts to oscillate on the x axis what can i do to go around that? i only get it when i put force comp im pretty new sorry the questions

paul•10/9/24, 5:37 PM

Hi Guys how do i find my position in the que ..i found the bot to use ..i think ..not to sure what to type in said didnt understand ? new to the discords any help much appreciated .thx

HrEple•10/9/24, 7:20 PM

Would anyone happen to know how I've screwed over my config so bad it makes the joystick disconnect when I load into modules in DCS?

I was wondering if it was because I disabled hot swap in DCS, but apparently thats not it either. I have no other USB issues as far as I can tell.

EDIT I do have a B650 motherboard - AMD / 7800 X3D cpu.

HrEple•10/9/24, 7:23 PM

Just by trying to load the default Rhino profile in VPForce FFB Configurator, I get this error log in TelemFFB - seems it disconnects

2024-10-09 21:22:04.535 - joystick - INFO - Launching VPforce Configurator....
2024-10-09 21:22:41.615 - joystick - ERROR - Exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "telemffb\hw\ffb_rhino.py", line 659, in timerEvent
File "telemffb\hw\ffb_rhino.py", line 787, in read_reports
File "telemffb\hw\hid.py", line 163, in read
File "telemffb\hw\hid.py", line 148, in __hidcall
telemffb.hw.hid.HIDException: hid_read_timeout/GetOverlappedResult: (0x0000048F) The device is not connected.
2024-10-09 21:22:41.615 - joystick - WARNING - Reconnecting HID device in 1s
2024-10-09 21:22:42.623 - joystick - INFO - HID connected!

HHrEple Just by trying to load the default Rhino profile in VPForce FFB Configurator, I ...

Number481•10/9/24, 8:32 PM

Probably bad advice, since your issue looks to be different... but you can try this: 🧰support

Otherwise you may need to wait for @walmis to help figure out the USB/driver issues.

HrEple•10/9/24, 8:41 PM

Much appreciated suggestion, Number481. I’ll try the script tomorrow.

HHrEple Much appreciated suggestion, Number481. I’ll try the script tomorrow.

walmis•10/10/24, 7:36 AM

Hmm, do you use a USB hub?

HrEple•10/10/24, 7:37 AM

I have a powered usb hub connected to the pc, but haven’t plugged the rhino into it. Tested it out as well yesterday with the same disconnect.

walmis•10/10/24, 7:43 AM

Does this disconnect happen only when using telemFFB ?

HrEple•10/10/24, 7:59 AM

I suspect so, yes. I’ll have a try with only using the config later on. But I suspect it’s only with telemFFB active.

walmis•10/10/24, 8:27 AM

One thing that could cause a reconnect normally is if the config profile changes either the "device ident" or the "device ID"

HrEple•10/10/24, 9:33 AM

I’m assuming that would produce a different usb product ID in the vpforce ffb configurator. Vaguely certain it stays the same, but also going to look into that. Any other way to tell if the configs force a new id?

Wwalmis One thing that could cause a reconnect normally is if the config profile changes...

Number481•10/10/24, 11:38 AM

This shouldn't be possible.. TelemFFB reads the config file first to check that the PID matches the device its getting ready to send it to.

walmis•10/10/24, 12:31 PM

Yeah, but device name change will def cause a usb reconnection

Wwalmis Yeah, but device name change will def cause a usb reconnection

Number481•10/10/24, 2:20 PM

true.. we don't check for that. I guess I should also check the Ident against the dev.product_stringdev.product_string in addition to the PID check.

Schwarzerlukas•10/10/24, 4:48 PM

Hello everyone, I have just finished the mechanical construction of my diy collective and am trying to get the electronics up and running. I am experiencing the following problem. In the FFB Configurator I do not get a display of the motor position (see screenshot). I have connected the ID:0 (y) pitch motor to MOT 2. I have checked the power supply to the motor and it is OK. What have I overlooked? Any help is welcome.
Many thanks
Martin

SSchwarzerlukas Hello everyone, I have just finished the mechanical construction of my diy colle...

Number481•10/10/24, 5:10 PM

disable the x axis in configurator so it knows its a single motor setup

HrEple•10/10/24, 5:21 PM

@walmis @Number481 I just found something interesting. Some of the profiles I load changes the USB Device Ident from "joystick" to "Rhino" (for my helo build). When the ident changes away, the stick disconnects ...

NNumber481 disable the x axis in configurator so it knows its a single motor setup

Schwarzerlukas•10/10/24, 5:22 PM

Thank you but that does not change the problem

Is it possible to upgrade the motors in the Rhino? DCS WWII fighters , the stick gets real soft afte

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