Did anyone have any buttons on their grip stop working after updating to 'v1.0.17b1'? I have a VPC M

Did anyone have any buttons on their grip stop working after updating to 'v1.0.17b1'? I have a VPC MongoosT-50 CM2 grip connected to my Rhino. The forward and aft inputs of the 2-way+push on the right side have stopped working after the Rhino update yesterday. When connected to my Virpil CM2 base it works normally (confirmed by VPC Configuration Tool and Windows Game Controller), but when connected to the Rhino base, the fore and aft presses aren't detected. Downward press still works. I have VPC T-50 CM2 selected in the Grip Type drop down just as I did before updating. I noticed that the fore and aft presses are detected when I select Generic Grip or most of the other VPC choices, but using those can cause other conflicts. If it helps, the non detected inputs are normally listed in Windows Game Controller as 18 and 19, and 28 and 29 in VPC Configuration Tool.

Old Prospector•10/26/24, 12:04 AM

Nope, just mapped those today actually

hectikOP•10/26/24, 1:07 AM

Hmm. Guess I'll play around with the settings, then. It's just weird that it's only with it on the Rhino, only with the CM2 grip type selected, and only after yesterdays update.

PiNKSH!T•10/26/24, 3:38 AM

@walmis hey m8, sorry again for ping. Is there a trick to removing the 3d printed grip attachment part? It seems to be on there really tight & I'm worried about damage to the gimbal??

PiNKSH!T•10/26/24, 3:40 AM

should I remove the metal shaft first?

PiNKSH!T•10/26/24, 3:50 AM

ok got the 3d part off but there is now way to install the new cable without cutting the plug end off & I don't have the tools to redo a plug like that??

PiNKSH!T•10/26/24, 3:57 AM

I got it sorry I'm a bit slow sometimes

Fresh_Mint•10/26/24, 4:13 AM

@hectik me either

PiNKSH!T•10/26/24, 4:15 AM

Any idea what size screws I need for attaching the cable head to the new cnc bit?

Hhectik Did anyone have any buttons on their grip stop working after updating to 'v1.0.1...

walmis•10/26/24, 5:14 AM

~~Does it work when you select Generic Grip profile?~~ I'll take a look later

PPiNKSH!T Any idea what size screws I need for attaching the cable head to the new cnc bit...

kaltokri•10/26/24, 8:40 AM

M3 x 8 mm Countersunk work well.

Kkaltokri M3 x 8 mm Countersunk work well.

PiNKSH!T•10/26/24, 9:05 AM

cheers m8

FFresh_Mint @hectik me either

hectikOP•10/26/24, 9:14 AM

Just for clarification, you mean you're having this problem too?

Fresh_Mint•10/26/24, 9:22 AM

Yeah, I also uses cm2 grip and 2-way is not working after the firmware update

HrEple•10/26/24, 1:38 PM

Same here - not working after the firmware-update. It's probably an easy fix once identified. Let us know what we can do to help, Walmis

TAGE•10/26/24, 6:16 PM

Hi there,

My vpp rhino won't update via web. It connects but never shows as connected so i cannot update fw.

Any ideas? i've tried different browsers and though the joystick is detected it wont actually connect.

TTAGE Hi there, My vpp rhino won't update via web. It connects but never shows as co...

Hiob•10/26/24, 6:49 PM

Did you click on connect?

TAGE•10/26/24, 6:49 PM

yes. lol ofc.

TAGE•10/26/24, 6:50 PM

it just does not actually connectbut if I use the previous version the VPForce app it works perfectly, it works in game and everything as well

TAGE•10/26/24, 6:50 PM

the joystick is working everywhere but the browsers, remember i tried different ones and they all fail the same way

TAGE•10/26/24, 6:51 PM

and i know com port passthrough is working in browsers because other apps and hardware that use webflashers work perfectly.

TAGE•10/26/24, 6:55 PM

and nvm

TAGE•10/26/24, 6:55 PM

it just worked after connecting reconnecting a few times

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•10/26/24, 8:40 PM

@walmis is it possible to buy the cable from the joystick to the controller board separately as I’ve managed to trap and damage mine

hectikOP•10/26/24, 10:29 PM

Someone refresh my memory. When you go to https://vpforce.eu/usb/rhino/ and click 'connect', is that pink dot then supposed to move when your stick does? Mine doesn't, and I feel like it did a day or two ago. I'll add that it doesn't move even if the Configurator program isn't open, because I think I remember that you can only be connected to either one at a time.

Wwalmis I'll kindly ask to fill out the buttons that correspond to hats, You can fill di...

Naoki_NT3•10/27/24, 7:00 AM

I tried a new beta firmware, but my old Virgil MongooseT50 is not supported yet. I already sent you requested information. Could you update firmware for it?

Qqwatch2000 I’ve been reading through the old posts about the F4 pitch up issue and checking...

Hiob•10/27/24, 10:20 AM

Hey, just retested with all the latest software updates. With FFB enabled and use of Rhino Stick and Pedals, I experience no issue. The Phantom trims just fine for level flight. Here are my settings:

Hiob•10/27/24, 10:20 AM

Major_Fault•10/27/24, 9:53 PM

Hi guys, I am using the Constellation Alpha on the Rhino, all works well BUT the Joystick "joystick hat "on the stick. Any hints how I can map this correctly (shows as hat 4 - always diagonal left up)

MMajor_Fault Hi guys, I am using the Constellation Alpha on the Rhino, all works well BUT the...

Number481•10/27/24, 11:55 PM

I have an Alpha Prime and a Non-Prime(L), both work fine. Did you make sure to calibrate the x/y for the thumbstick?

NNumber481 I have an Alpha Prime and a Non-Prime(L), both work fine. Did you make sure to ...

Major_Fault•10/27/24, 11:57 PM

Yes I did, also used recenter, but somehow it is not working. It only works down and left it seems, but at default its hows as it is pushed.
Iu se3ed the claibration and recenter in the config tool. Will try again tomorrow. But I was wondering if I have to "activate" it somewhere. The other 3 hats work fine.

Number481•10/28/24, 12:02 AM

the other 3 hats are actual buttons. The "button's" for the mini-stick are virtual buttons that get activated when the stick exceeds some (unknown to me) threshold. If you are calibrated correctly and seeing full excursion of the axis positions for Rx/Ry, IDK what else could be wrong.

Major_Fault•10/28/24, 12:04 AM

I'll take a screenshot tomorrow and share. Thanks for the help. If I remember correctly it was all maxed out all the time, but I will check after work.

amadeus•10/28/24, 3:30 AM

Maybe the calibration wasn’t stored on device?

CapnFlint•10/28/24, 7:58 PM

I'm using the Rhino, 200mm Extension, VKB MCG Pro. I seem to be having an issue that my X center position is always about -040 to -050 output value. I've added a balance spring, I've recalibrated a bunch of times and I'm still stuck. And the slight induced roll is kindof a pain. Any ideas?

CapnFlint•10/28/24, 8:10 PM

Is there a way to set the current position as the 0 position?

CapnFlint•10/28/24, 8:11 PM

CapnFlint•10/28/24, 8:12 PM

CCapnFlint I'm using the Rhino, 200mm Extension, VKB MCG Pro. I seem to be having an issue ...

Number481•10/28/24, 8:14 PM

I'd be curious, as a test, if you un-tick damper, friction and inertia (and apply), do you see proper centering?

CCapnFlint Is there a way to set the current position as the 0 position?

Hiob•10/28/24, 8:20 PM

I would suggest to manually overwrite (don’t forget to apply and save) the calibration values to bring the center where it is supposed to be. I‘d recommend to either increase the lower value or decrease the higher value, depending on which side you want to go.

NNumber481 I'd be curious, as a test, if you un-tick damper, friction and inertia (and appl...

CapnFlint•10/28/24, 8:22 PM

Maybe better, but still -20s to -40s even with 40% balance spring

HHiob I would suggest to manually overwrite (don’t forget to apply and save) the calib...

CapnFlint•10/28/24, 8:23 PM

So just add 40 to my "X:min 572" value?

Hiob•10/28/24, 8:24 PM

Prob half or double that. Just try. It‘s not dangerous if you keep the increments small.

CapnFlint•10/28/24, 8:27 PM

Okay, that seems to be working pretty well

CCapnFlint Okay, that seems to be working pretty well

Hiob•10/28/24, 8:30 PM

Problem is that the system is elastic. Depending on the force you apply at each endpoint the mid point can be a bit off. Add an unsymmetrical weight distribution of the grip or an angled offset to this and you have some deviation.

CCapnFlint Maybe better, but still -20s to -40s even with 40% balance spring

Number481•10/28/24, 8:38 PM

Gotcha... if the deviation is always to one side, its probably not related.

Was asking since your damper and friction are higher than I normally see/use. The spring effect is very weak near center so it might not be strong enough (even with adaptive recentering) to overcome those.

In the new firmware/configurator you can actually set gain curves for those effects too.. you could reduce the friction/damper near center to make it easier for the spring effect to find center.

NNumber481 Gotcha... if the deviation is always to one side, its probably not related. Was...

Hiob•10/28/24, 8:42 PM

Or make the spring curve a bit steeper around the middle. That increases overall strength though, so you might wanna reduce spring gain a bit.

Number481•10/28/24, 8:46 PM

Yep.. that too. Was dangerous in 1.0.16 because it was easy to induce instability if you got very sharp around center. This is the spring gain map on my collective spring in 1.0.17 (for when collective force trim is active). Feels like a rock when the spring is active

Hiob•10/28/24, 8:47 PM

Well!

I had a bit less in mind…..

Number481•10/28/24, 8:48 PM

just sayin... the stability enhancements in 1.0.17 are legit

NNumber481 the other 3 hats are actual buttons. The "button's" for the mini-stick are virt...

Major_Fault•10/28/24, 9:00 PM

thats the thumb stick with no input.

Did anyone have any buttons on their grip stop working after updating to 'v1.0.17b1'? I have a VPC M

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