Window menu->show child instance windows. Additional checks were put in the latest release to pr

Window menu->show child instance windows.

Additional checks were put in the latest release to prevent accidental selection of a profile that changes the PID or device name. Doesn’t appear it is properly accounting for the device configuration context.

NNumber481 Window menu->show child instance windows. Additional checks were put in the ...

Old Prospector•11/3/24, 3:03 PM

Ya mine is still unrecognized in Windows/game

TTeufelHunden I'm going to order some more throw limiters but I'm a bit confused as to the deg...

tanr•11/3/24, 5:02 PM

You can calculate the throw with math. Measure the distance from the center of rotation to the top of the grip (or center of your hand) - that will be your radius, R.
Then 2 x 3.1416 x R = total circumference C. Multiply C by the limiters’ percents from opposite sides (say 11 pull and 20 push for pitch = 0.31) and you’ll have the throw distance. (Edit to fix Discord format changing formula...)

Ttanr You can calculate the throw with math. Measure the distance from the center of ...

Reed•11/3/24, 5:59 PM

I used chatgpt to manage my throw distance per degree based on my setup, let it do its calcuations then had it spit out a graph showing different throw differences per degree, picked what i wanted and printed it in PLA plus, perfection.

Reed•11/3/24, 6:03 PM

Here’s a simplified representation of the data for total throw length at different degree limiters:

Total Throw Length for Different Degree Limiters:

Limiter Angle (Degrees) Total Throw Length (inches)
6 ~5.52
7 ~6.44
8 ~7.37
9 ~8.29
10 ~9.21
11 ~10.13

Description:

• X-axis (Limiter Angle): The angle of the throw limiter, ranging from 6 to 11 degrees.
• Y-axis (Total Throw Length): The corresponding throw length in inches for each degree.

tanr•11/3/24, 6:09 PM

That works!

Reed•11/3/24, 6:14 PM

that is for my length extension

tanr•11/3/24, 9:00 PM

I've been experimenting with which USB ports the Rhino is plugged into. With some ports it will turn itself off (even though USBLogView doesn't show it disconnecting) and TelemFFB console shows it as not connected after an Exception. I thought this was probably related to hitting a limit for USB resources but I don't get any errors about that. I can work around this by choosing the ports and/or hubs it DOES work on, so I have a workaround, but I've noticed some odd details and wanted to check if something else might be going on.

Looking at USB Device Tree Viewer, I see the Rhino's top level node as "Taiwan OEM - OBSOLETE VPforce Rhino FFB Joystick". Does this mean that possibly the correct drivers for it aren't running?
With one of my USB hubs (Startech industrial 3.0 10 port hub w/ 65 watt power adapter) plugging in the Rhino (or booting up with it connected) to that hub (or sometimes a different 3.0 hub) will cause either one or ALL of the devices on that hub to disconnect. They then sometimes reconnect, and sometimes stay disconnected. Think this is just a hub issue, or could something else be going on?
I can connect the Rhino USB directly to a USB port on a PCIE card if that might help, but that would mean extending an already long USB cable from 8 feet to 12 feet - though I can maybe use an extra VR headset USB fiber optic cable. Long cable to mobo pcie usb okay?

Dudeman•11/4/24, 12:02 AM

stupid question. Is there an easy way to update an older build of the VPforce configurator software? Or does it require a new install

Old Prospector•11/4/24, 12:21 AM

configurator just runs the .exe doesn't it

Old Prospector•11/4/24, 12:21 AM

like you just run the new one

Dudeman•11/4/24, 12:26 AM

yeah but then it deletes all my old settings

Dudeman•11/4/24, 12:33 AM

nevermind i got it. I had the wrong firmware

Ice•11/4/24, 1:07 AM

https://i.imgur.com/WEYvlQy.png

Imgur

Ice•11/4/24, 1:08 AM

Happened when I updated

Ice•11/4/24, 1:09 AM

It flagged the updater.exe too.

Old Prospector•11/4/24, 1:36 AM

anyone else have problems with the rhino appearing as a game controller in windows? connects fine to web tool and configurator.

Ttanr I've been experimenting with which USB ports the Rhino is plugged into. With so...

Old Prospector•11/4/24, 3:28 AM

I have also had some funky USB behavior

IIce https://i.imgur.com/WEYvlQy.png

Hiob•11/4/24, 8:23 AM

false positive (as always). If you are irritated by those, check the file with virustotal.com.

FlowerPot•11/4/24, 9:22 AM

I'm planning to buy a forcefeedback stick in the future, but not right now.

What I am trying to do now is build this because I want a quick release rail system which this offers (if something is better i'm all ears) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWXf6EsfZ4c

Which requires this - https://virpil-controls.eu/vpc-desk-mount-angled-adapter-mt-50-throttle.html

Only problem is that I use a VKB Gunfighter and a modded Thrustmaster TWCS

I figured asking here would be real good as I'd find some people that are all about that DIY.

To me the options seem to be to:

Make the VKB Gunfighter and modded Thrustmaster TWCS fit the virpil desk mount adapter somehow
2.Change the adapter used, but that would require changing the print files for screw points? Something I don't know how to do.

Any input is greatly appreciated

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Hiob•11/4/24, 9:39 AM

@walmis I had a problem with the Firmware/VP config yesterday. After DCS crashed, the spring was stuck in "controlled by application". No matter what I did, including restarting config or TelemFFB, rebooting the system - even power cycling the Rhino. Only thing that eventually helped was to re-import a profile. Probably was a very unlikely one-off. Just so you know, in case it happens again....

walmis•11/4/24, 9:49 AM

Probably a stuck effect. Power cycling (the red button) will not clear it. To reset You can either type "reset" into the command prompt in the configurator, unplug-replug USB, or issue reset all ffb effects in telemFFB menu.

walmis•11/4/24, 9:49 AM

Although restarting DCS should clear it too

Hiob•11/4/24, 10:08 AM

Thanks, will try those if it happens again.

HHiob false positive (as always). If you are irritated by those, check the file with v...

Ice•11/4/24, 3:02 PM

I assumed so.

tanr•11/4/24, 5:42 PM

Is the new TelemFFB 20241103 now considered to be non-beta? A little confused since the firmware it requires (1.0.17b3) seems to still be in beta, and same for Configurator, which is at 1.0.17b2. Wondering if there will be an announcement when all 3 are at matching release versions? Or when we have release candidates?

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•11/4/24, 5:45 PM

After about three months of using my rhino with a thrustmaster warthog grip the buttons stopped working mid flight , I was trimming f18 and it just went more and more nose down trim.
In the rhino config app it showed button 14 permanently on which I think was nose down trim.
when I unplugged the grip and replugged back in no buttons show up on app.
Debug shows all FFFFFFFF which I think is gripping not detected,
I had swapped my 3d printed grip adaptor for a metal one about a week before so I removed it and saw that the green wire (clock) was cut but still continuity to the Wallis board.
But to rule this out I rewired the din plug and check continuity against the attatched drawing .
Still no buttons
I replaced grip with a new thrustmaster f-18 grip but still no joy
Have I brick the walmis board and can someone confirm that the drawing attatched is the correct wiring.

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•11/4/24, 5:46 PM

This is looking at top of the din plug

slowmover•11/4/24, 5:52 PM

hey mates. I can see that i have friction enable from telemffb but i do not see springs on telemffb. i am blind? cause VPforce software says Springs controlled by application

Sslowmover hey mates. I can see that i have friction enable from telemffb but i do not see ...

walmis•11/4/24, 6:01 PM

Spring is controlled by DCS

((41F) RAFAIR Dave H After about three months of using my rhino with a thrustmaster warthog grip the ...

walmis•11/4/24, 6:02 PM

You can do a connectivity check with the grip using a multimeter:
https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1301275762271457394

CaptainNel•11/4/24, 7:28 PM

If I build one it’s going to have a separate controller for the joystick vs the axes, can I map a separate controllers button for the trim release button?

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•11/4/24, 7:32 PM

@walmis I have done a connectivity check and it confirms to the drawing I listed above checked it three times to confirm

((41F) RAFAIR Dave H @walmis I have done a connectivity check and it confirms to the drawing I listed...

walmis•11/4/24, 7:36 PM

Did you do the diode test? It's a bit different as it shows whether the signal reaches the grip electronics. That will confirm whether there's no issues in the connector itself.

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•11/4/24, 9:22 PM

no was just buzing through thre cable

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•11/4/24, 9:24 PM

how do i do a diode check is it each pin to gnd

((41F) RAFAIR Dave H how do i do a diode check is it each pin to gnd

TheAmazinGreat•11/4/24, 9:31 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1301275762271457394

CaptainNel•11/4/24, 9:41 PM

If I build one it’s going to have a separate controller for the joystick vs the axes, as im using a custom joystick running on freejoy. can I map a separate controllers button for the trim release button abd trim hat? Or will it only work with controllers running on the VPforce board

CCaptainNel If I build one it’s going to have a separate controller for the joystick vs the ...

TheAmazinGreat•11/4/24, 10:36 PM

The built in loopback app should be able to handle this, up to two axes at least since the latest update allows you to map to pot1/pot2.

Sudeebare•11/4/24, 10:44 PM

Started using the Rhino two days ago. I have had several instances of both motors suddenly going offline. Today I had pitch axis motor going offline during DCS dogfight. Configurator showed unstable condition on pitch axis motor. I'm guessing this is going to happen again. Any suggestions as to how to identify the problem?

SSudeebare Started using the Rhino two days ago. I have had several instances of both motor...

TheAmazinGreat•11/4/24, 10:46 PM

Post a screenshot of your configurator effects and settings tabs

Sudeebare•11/4/24, 11:25 PM

Sudeebare•11/4/24, 11:28 PM

f14billy•11/4/24, 11:40 PM

In the settings tab you also want to expand the setting on the right side like power settings filters etc before taking the screenshot

Sudeebare•11/5/24, 12:10 AM

TTheAmazinGreat I did, but was able to tune it out with some changes to friction/inertia. I woul...

Varibraun•11/5/24, 1:41 AM

I am getting this resting oscillation/shaking also with the new firmware, mine seems related to friction.

SSudeebare Click to see attachment

TheAmazinGreat•11/5/24, 3:31 AM

Those look like the rhino defaults so it should be pretty stable. Do you have it plugged into a USB hub or directly to your PC?

VVaribraun I am getting this resting oscillation/shaking also with the new firmware, mine s...

TheAmazinGreat•11/5/24, 3:32 AM

I also played with the vel and acc estimator gains. Increasing them slowly helped further stabilize.

SSudeebare Click to see attachment

Hiob•11/5/24, 6:53 AM

Your spring gain is too high. You must make sure, that the maximum amps at max deflection stay below your limit. Otherwise you can easily overpower the motor and tilt it.

walmis•11/5/24, 8:34 AM

@Sudeebare One could lower the Damper force low pass filter, to 15-20Hz if instability develops.

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•11/5/24, 8:39 AM

Is the jst conector on the walmis board jst xh or jst ph

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