@Hiob appreciate your time to respond, really do, Yes I use overears headphones now, but must hear m

@Hiob appreciate your time to respond, really do, Yes I use overears headphones now, but must hear my children waking up so not always the option to have both over ears ^^

ShamanskyOP•11/10/24, 1:08 PM

Last question, what are nominal temperatures under heavy use and what temperature is alarming?

SShamansky @Hiob appreciate your time to respond, really do, Yes I use overears headphones ...

Hiob•11/10/24, 1:49 PM

That really depends on the use case. You CAN bring the stick to its (thermal) knees with continuous 9G dogfighting no matter the cooling. However with normal average use it will only occasionally get to high temps (50-60) and immediately cool down again when the forces are relieved. It will settle around 40 C with normal room temps.

Hiob•11/10/24, 1:50 PM

It has self protection though. If it gets too hot it will start to reduce the max amps and in result the max forces will come down.

Hiob•11/10/24, 1:51 PM

With the new software option to control the fan, I would rather start the cooling early too have more wiggle room, but that is personal preference.

Nemisis Wolf•11/10/24, 2:38 PM

@Hiob Hi just got my Rhino a month ago and love it so much I'm going to be upgrading my MFG Crosswinds to FFB with your kit. Will use Kaltokri's kit and order a motor from Walmis. Can't wait to get the full effect as FFB stick on it's own seems like it's missing something

NNemisis Wolf @Hiob Hi just got my Rhino a month ago and love it so much I'm going to be upgr...

Hiob•11/10/24, 2:40 PM

Make sure you specify that the motor is for use with pedals when ordering. Makes things a little easier later!

HHiob Make sure you specify that the motor is for use with pedals when ordering. Makes...

Nemisis Wolf•11/10/24, 2:50 PM

Noted thanks!

HHiob Make sure you specify that the motor is for use with pedals when ordering. Makes...

Nemisis Wolf•11/10/24, 2:53 PM

Oh and thanks for all the hard work on this Mod especially updating it to include the V3 MFG's which is the version I have. Once i have all the parts I'll post in your #

knowledge-base post and do a Video review of it!

skyPickle•11/10/24, 3:08 PM

been away for awhile and returned to update vpforceffb configurator to 1.0.17b2 and FFB telem to latest. also updated the rhino firmware as well. My question relates to the system settings of FFB telem. I found new launch options. I set 'enable auto launch as well as 'start with windows', 'start in system tray',and 'closing app sends to tray'. Under launch options , joystick radio button is selected and usb product id is 2055. There are no checkboxes on this line unlike the radio buttons labeled 'pedals','collective' which do have checkboxes under the columns 'autolaunch,start minimized,start headless' . When I try to save this, a dialog pops up 'Auto launching is enabled but no devices are configured for auto launch. Please enable a device...';. Is there a youtube on how to configure this and what these settings do?

SskyPickle been away for awhile and returned to update vpforceffb configurator to 1.0.17b2 ...

Number481•11/10/24, 3:21 PM

auto launch settings only apply to how the master instance starts the additional instances. If you don't have pedals/collective, you don't need it enabled.

NNumber481 auto launch settings only apply to how the master instance starts the additional...

skyPickle•11/10/24, 4:28 PM

thank you. In fact I have mfg pedals and a virpil throttle. so what does telemffb do for those pieces of hardware?

SskyPickle thank you. In fact I have mfg pedals and a virpil throttle. so what does telemff...

Hiob•11/10/24, 4:31 PM

Unless they are FFB modded - nothing.

Ttanr I had to turn Jet Engine Rumble and Afterburner Rumble (or something like that) ...

DoubleD•11/10/24, 5:05 PM

I pulled Jet Engine Rumble down to 12 and it's perfect, thank you!

NNumber481 No, that is not normal at all. There aren't even any TelemFFB effects that woul...

DoubleD•11/10/24, 5:19 PM

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn99-b99-captain-ray-holt-andre-braugher-brooklyn-nine-nine-gif-13978324

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DoubleD•11/10/24, 5:19 PM

I am fairly certain it was a combination of engine rumble being higher and having my F-4 profile set to "helicopter" ....If I can guess how that happened, I jump between fixed wing and helos in Heatblur's cold war server fairly regularly, and so I must have inadvertently switched the F-4's profile over to helo when I though I was tinkering with UH-1 settings.

DDracks I had pretty much the same problem as you and I think @Number481 is on the case....

westereq•11/10/24, 5:25 PM

it was same on all liveries i had
i reverted back to B82 and the behavior is gone

Thanks @Number481 for your input as well!

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Varibraun•11/10/24, 5:26 PM

I have the same issue which started with updating to the new Firmware (17b4), not related to DCS for me (I am running IL2). My only success so far has been to uncheck Friction in the Settings tab. I have tried some other suggested tuning without success.

scarecrow6685•11/10/24, 6:31 PM

@Varibraun interesting, I'm having no issues with IL2, I run friction at 100% in the telemffb along with dampener and inertia. Everything worked great until I updated telemffb which then required configurator to be updated which then prompted me to update firmware. I've seen other posts about friction issues with the new firmware, but no concrete solutions.

skyPickle•11/10/24, 8:54 PM

So telemFFB should load the vpconf profile in the VPForce config folder which has the file name matching the aircraft. So in the settings tab of telemFFB I can specify the vpconf file for the jet that telemFFB is recognizing at the moment. Is there a way to actually know what is loaded into VPForce FFB configurator? Does VPforce configurator show the name of the vpconf file anywhere?

SskyPickle So telemFFB should load the vpconf profile in the VPForce config folder which ha...

Number481•11/10/24, 9:36 PM

The vpconf file is tied to the aircraft profile. Whatever you choose here will get pushed when that aircraft is loaded.

Number481•11/10/24, 9:37 PM

You can also set a default profile to load when TelemFFB starts and enable the global flag. With the global flag enabled, that profile will get pushed to any aircraft that does not have its own profile set if the previously loaded aircraft had one set.

skyPickle•11/10/24, 10:28 PM

thank you. But I was wondering if there is a way to confirm that the profile is indeed loaded in the VP Force configurator application.

Number481•11/10/24, 10:31 PM

The configurator does not show the file name.. But if you gave your profiles a unique "configuration name", you would see that update in configurator

skyPickle•11/10/24, 10:43 PM

As you can see, I have an AJS37.vpconf, telemFFB is configured correctly and loads it, but the VP configurator just shows a blank in the field (where yours shows default)

Number481•11/10/24, 10:44 PM

You have to save the text in that field when you save the profile. It’s not related to the file name in any way. Just a custom name you can give it.

skyPickle•11/10/24, 10:46 PM

ok, thank you. I just would like a way to confirm the correct profile gets loaded by telemFFB. I guess I can keep a record of the settings to confirm what I see in VP configurator.

NNumber481 The configurator does not show the file name.. But if you gave your profiles a ...

Hiob•11/11/24, 6:42 AM

Everyday I learn something useful!

I/JG7_Moto•11/11/24, 2:28 PM

Having an issue with the Rhino, I fly DCS warbirds mainly, all works well except for the FW190A8 and FW190D after some minutes of use the fan always comes ON and after a while the motors quit, only happens with this two planes

I/JG7_Moto•11/11/24, 2:29 PM

I/JG7_Moto•11/11/24, 2:30 PM

I/JG7_Moto•11/11/24, 2:32 PM

End Temperature , if I increase that, will it help?

I/JG7_Moto•11/11/24, 2:33 PM

Hiob•11/11/24, 2:59 PM

Some odd things about your settings. First, with the Fan start temperature at 33 and end at 50 it is not surprising, that the fans turn on. You can easily expect an idle temp in the high 30s in a gaming session. So far so good.
Second. 100% spring is a lot. You are most likely overpowering the motors in the heat of the battle. Try to have the stats on top and see what kind of amps they are pulling when flying those Aircraft (supposedly in a Dogfight). Adjust your spring so you don't exceed maximum amps at maximum deflection.
Also with the telemetry up, see what temps you reach before the motors quit.

Hiob•11/11/24, 3:01 PM

On a side note, I assume you have Damper Inertia and Friction disabled intentionally? Are you using TelemFFB to override any settings?

f14billy•11/11/24, 3:27 PM

His pot1 (spring gain) is set to around 30 percent so he shouldn't be overpowering it right?

Ff14billy His pot1 (spring gain) is set to around 30 percent so he shouldn't be overpoweri...

Hiob•11/11/24, 3:46 PM

You're right. I missed that.

HHiob Some odd things about your settings. First, with the Fan start temperature at 33...

I/JG7_Moto•11/11/24, 4:27 PM

What would be a safe max temperature to stop the fans?

II/JG7_Moto What would be a safe max temperature to stop the fans?

Hiob•11/11/24, 4:34 PM

They don't stop at the end temperature (that wouldn't make much sense) - it's just where they reach their maximum (set) speed. Your fan settings are fine. If anything put the maximum speed to 100 if you need more cooling.
But from your description, I don't necessarily think it is a temp problem. Or at least we can't be sure.

Hiob•11/11/24, 4:36 PM

Are your motors really tilting and need to be reset or are they just getting weaker? (That would point to heat throttling)

HHiob Are your motors really tilting and need to be reset or are they just getting wea...

I/JG7_Moto•11/11/24, 4:47 PM

They quit all of a sudden, dont get weaker.

II/JG7_Moto They quit all of a sudden, dont get weaker.

Hiob•11/11/24, 5:08 PM

Have you ruled out a unstable power supply?

HHiob Have you ruled out a unstable power supply?

I/JG7_Moto•11/11/24, 5:28 PM

It only happens with the 190s though, might not be the power supply

Hiob•11/11/24, 5:34 PM

Are you running TelemFFB?

Hiob•11/11/24, 5:35 PM

Any settings that are different from your other Aircraft?

I/JG7_Moto•11/11/24, 9:27 PM

Yes I use Telem, nothing different than other aircraft

CaptainNel•11/11/24, 11:57 PM

Just a sudden thought that I should’ve figured out how long an extension this can handle before buying, I’ll be somewhere between 250-300mm I think, will the standard motors work well or am I SOL

I/JG7_Moto•11/12/24, 12:23 AM

Got 2 motor disconnects while firing the 109 this time.

I/JG7_Moto•11/12/24, 12:23 AM

[15:37:16.926] * USB Connected
[15:37:17.094] Resetting motors
[15:37:17.095] Motor Y active
[15:37:17.095] Motor X active
[15:37:17.097] Motor Y timeout
[15:37:17.097] Motor X timeout
[15:37:40.173] Config received
[15:38:01.188] Config received
[15:38:10.134] Config received
[15:38:59.636] Reset
[15:38:59.636] FFB_RemoveAllEffects
[15:38:59.638] Stop All Effects
[15:38:59.638] Device Gain: 255
[15:41:41.066] Effect 10 (Spring): Override enable
[15:45:31.721] Effect 9 (Spring): Override enable
[15:46:16.655] Effect 9 (Spring): Override enable
[16:08:00.206] Effect 9 (Spring): Override enable
[16:08:31.952] Effect 9 (Spring): Override enable
[16:09:19.998] Effect 9 (Spring): Override enable
[16:21:09.189] Motor Y timeout
[16:21:09.189] Motor X timeout

I/JG7_Moto•11/12/24, 12:23 AM

I/JG7_Moto•11/12/24, 12:24 AM

@Hiob appreciate your time to respond, really do, Yes I use overears headphones now, but must hear m

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