Also what does cogging feel like? can it be on only one direction of travel for either axis? For exa

Also what does cogging feel like? can it be on only one direction of travel for either axis? For example, i get a bumping when moving off the center to the left, but this "bump" or click doesnt happen in either direction.

walmis•11/21/24, 3:00 PM

Spring mapping remaps displacement vs spring force curve
Spring dynamics remaps SIM requested spring gain to a custom map. For example DCS warbirds have speed dependent spring gain - this feature allows to tweak it. For example to make it more stiff at higher speed, etc. If the spring gain is static it doesn't do anything.

ReedOP•11/21/24, 3:02 PM

Ok, i understand. I thank you

RReed Also what does cogging feel like? can it be on only one direction of travel for ...

walmis•11/21/24, 3:03 PM

You can feel the cogging by turning off power to the unit, when motors are unpowered you will feel the magnetic bumpiness of the motors.
If you feel a single bump or a click you can try tightening the small pulley grub screws and the large gear 5x bolts.

ReedOP•11/21/24, 3:03 PM

The weird bumping, i am feeling in the left x axis, feels like skipping maybe, but its only in the left x axis. up down and right have no issues

Wwalmis You can feel the cogging by turning off power to the unit, when motors are unpow...

ReedOP•11/21/24, 3:04 PM

perfect. thanks homie. appreciate your hard work and ffb solution that has changed vr for the best.

Wwalmis Hi, you can drop a request for spare parts [via the order form](http://order.vpf...

j9murphy•11/21/24, 4:39 PM

I ordered this from Amazon, looked similar. it should arrive tonight and I can see if it fits. If not, I'll use the order form.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MTMNP61?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

16mm /0.63" Latching Emergency Stop Push Button Switch SPDT Mushroo...

Package include : 1* 16MM Emergency Stop Push Button Switch 1* Wire Connector Sockets What's Self-Locking Switch: Latching Push Button Switch, Push to lock, Turn to Release, What's the Wire Connector: With the wire connector, you don't need to solder the terminals, make installing very easy Saves...

Jj9murphy I ordered this from Amazon, looked similar. it should arrive tonight and I can ...

walmis•11/21/24, 4:39 PM

Yep, 16mm will fit nicely

RReed The weird bumping, i am feeling in the left x axis, feels like skipping maybe, ...

Vertigo (VIV)•11/21/24, 6:33 PM

I also seem to have this. I thought it was my 3d printed extension, which does have some play, but Im pretty sure now thats not it, as I also get it without it.

RReed The weird bumping, i am feeling in the left x axis, feels like skipping maybe, ...

Hiob•11/21/24, 7:33 PM

Possible reasons for feel of „play“ in the stick I encountered: (DIY Kit!)

The TM Warthog Stick itself has some nasty play between the grip and the crap metal connector (solved with some 3D printed wedges)
the 12T pulley was loose on the motor axis (grub screw not secured with loctide)
The threaded inlays in the gooseneck extension came loose (the screws that held them actuallly - solved with loctide)
the rectangular aluminium extrusion had play in the gimbal core, solved with some electrical tape.

HHiob Possible reasons for feel of „play“ in the stick I encountered: (DIY Kit!) - The...

f14billy•11/21/24, 7:36 PM

I can confirm the TM warthog play. In my case upgrading the 3D printed connector to the metal one solved the issue.

Ff14billy I can confirm the TM warthog play. In my case upgrading the 3D printed connector...

Hiob•11/21/24, 7:38 PM

the play I meant is in the stick itself. The screw on connector of the stick itself sits loose in the halves of the grip.

HHiob the play I meant is in the stick itself. The screw on connector of the stick its...

f14billy•11/21/24, 7:41 PM

That's what I noticed but for some reason when I mounted it in the aluminum grip mount the play was gone. Maybe I just got lucky.

Ff14billy That's what I noticed but for some reason when I mounted it in the aluminum grip...

Hiob•11/21/24, 7:47 PM

Hm, ok. Can‘t really see how that should help. Maybe it warps/bends so much that it comes under tension? Either way. Unless taken care of, it was VERY annoying indeed!

HHiob Hm, ok. Can‘t really see how that should help. Maybe it warps/bends so much that...

f14billy•11/21/24, 7:48 PM

Haha I'm not sure. I tried and it worked so I'll leave it alone... Definitely annoying!

ReedOP•11/21/24, 8:39 PM

Can I get a picture of these different places things may cause this bumping. Sorry I’m dense. I’ve only replaced the limiter before so haven’t dove deep into how everything is connected for the gears and extrusion

Wwalmis Yep, 16mm will fit nicely

j9murphy•11/21/24, 11:26 PM

just tried the emergency switch from amazon i posted above, works and fits perfectly

Epyon•11/23/24, 10:31 AM

Hi, how can I fix the stick oscillation issue? I've seen other users having the same problem earlier in november, but could not find a solution.

*NOB*Aries•11/23/24, 12:05 PM

On Afterburner shake effect in DCS F-16 when crossing with stick through center position there is some sharpish tingly increasedvibrations... why would vibrations change while passing through axes center? Could something be damaged or loose?
How can I check that stuff inside?

*NOB*Aries•11/23/24, 12:06 PM

Does anyone else experience this?

Battis•11/23/24, 12:43 PM

Can not update firmware. I tried looking through this thread and tried some fixes but nojoy. WebUSB Tool v1.0.6 does not work. Neither does Configurator v1.0.17b2.

BBattis Can not update firmware. I tried looking through this thread and tried some fixe...

walmis•11/23/24, 1:04 PM

HI, can you post the screenshot of the WebUSB page?

Battis•11/23/24, 1:06 PM

BBattis Click to see attachment

walmis•11/23/24, 1:07 PM

🧰support
This should fix it. If it works it should display a proper firmware version afterwards instead of --

Battis•11/23/24, 1:12 PM

Where should I open that PS window?

walmis•11/23/24, 1:20 PM

Type powershell in the start menu, right click -> open as administrator

EEpyon Hi, how can I fix the stick oscillation issue? I've seen other users having the ...

walmis•11/23/24, 1:23 PM

Can you export and share your configuration? I could take a look.

Wwalmis https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/968208779084701716/1151153966483...

Battis•11/23/24, 2:38 PM

Thanks! Works now.

Wwalmis Can you export and share your configuration? I could take a look.

Epyon•11/23/24, 3:55 PM

Wwalmis Can you export and share your configuration? I could take a look.

Epyon•11/23/24, 3:56 PM

race_profile.vpconf7.18KB

helo-2024-01-16_001330.vpconf7.18KB

airplane-2024-01-15_222259.vpconf7.18KB

DL•11/23/24, 11:05 PM

@walmis, a public thanks for the fast support you provided and the rapid generation of a new Firmware to resolve an issue with one of my motors. For a one man band with hundreds of customers, if not thousands, you put many of the commercial companies to shame. Good support is everything, and you deliver it. My thanks.

Ice•11/24/24, 1:13 AM

I did an “oopsie.” Where can I find the file to reprint this on my printer at home? This is the Winwing adapter

Ice•11/24/24, 1:14 AM

I hit it with my damn knee getting out of the rig

Ice•11/24/24, 1:23 AM

And how many wall loops, floor loops, top loops, and infill %?

ReedOP•11/24/24, 1:28 AM

ive found a wierd bug. I have hardware limiters in. I have recalibrated and have full throw via software. in dcs the game isnt using the entire travel of the stick in the x,y axis of the rhino. The vpforce software is showing the full delfection, but dcs is only using about 80%, I have no curves, nor have i messed with the gain maps.

IIce I did an “oopsie.” Where can I find the file to reprint this on my printer at ho...

TrigaNZ•11/24/24, 5:36 AM

The STL is n the knowledge base I think. How did you extend the cable from the WW adaptor up to the grip? I tried to make an extension cable but it would not work. https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1198547200058347670/1252245760293208115

TTrigaNZ The STL is n the knowledge base I think. How did you extend the cable from the W...

Ice•11/24/24, 5:58 AM

Came with my extension

FlyingKiwi•11/24/24, 6:29 AM

Is there a thread detailing the steps to get the Rhino to work in MSFS 2024?

IIce Came with my extension

TrigaNZ•11/24/24, 6:32 AM

Where did you get the extension?

TTrigaNZ Where did you get the extension?

Ice•11/24/24, 9:18 AM

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08VKXSSDN

Flight Stick Grip Extension Kit Configuration #7 for Thrustmaster W...

Flight stick grip extension kit. All light and strong anodized aluminum material (both tubes and adapters). Grip Extension kit includes various extensions: 70mm, 105mm, 150mm. Total length adjustment with adapters: 70mm (2.75 in.) to 190mm (7.5 in.) Included in the kit: three extensions, female/m...

FFlyingKiwi Is there a thread detailing the steps to get the Rhino to work in MSFS 2024?

Number481•11/24/24, 12:21 PM

Its identical to 2020 in operation. Enable MSFS in TelemFFB, start the sim. That's it.

Any aircraft you copy from your 2020 community folder over to 2024 should work without intervention.

Many of the default aircraft though have different "names" from 2020 so will require new profiles in TelemFFB. You can clone from the existing matching default profile. For example in 2020 you have "Asobo Cabri G2", in 2024 it is just "Cabri G2".

Always suggest using a wildcard option when creating a new profile so that it matches all the liveries (i.e. Cabri G2.*Cabri G2.*)

Be aware that during menu transitions and in the career mode, the MSFS24 "pause" state is broken and will feed random telemetry to TelemFFB.. keep a hand on the stick to avoid whack-f*.**

Wwalmis Can you export and share your configuration? I could take a look.

TheAmazinGreat•11/24/24, 1:02 PM

Related to this request. The latest firmware seems to have some very picky requirements for inertia and friction to maintain stability. I’ve seen a few requests like this one pop up and have had the issue myself. I thought I had it tuned out using the estimator gains but in sim have had some unstable conditions pop up. It’s a bit of a head scratcher for me too. I’ve had to either disable friction or inertia completely as the only reliable way to fix it.

TTheAmazinGreat Related to this request. The latest firmware seems to have some very picky requi...

walmis•11/24/24, 1:07 PM

Can you try vel estimator @ 50 and Damper LPF @ 12Hz
It's also possible to use the pre v17 behaviour, by setting the Vel estimator to 0 and using lower damper LPF values (<8Hz)

ToreDL87•11/24/24, 1:38 PM

How do I get the Rhino working in War Thunder? (Sim Battles mode with planes) I see FFBeast users getting it working there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji7rUlsiWB4&t
This guy has total superiority as a result. I asked him how he did it and he simply replied it has to be configured correctly in software?
Other MSFFB2 guys also report great FFB there, but I've had no luck with either MSFFB2 or the Rhino.
I've tried just about every setting but result is the same, the stick is completely limp at all times and just intermittently rattles and shakes :/
Edit: Have to add I can of course get it "working" by configuring it as a non-FFB

YouTubeСало лётчик

War Thunder\playing on FFB

Ссылка на группу-"Секта свидетелей ффб"-https://t.me/+kRMhTmLEQE5kNmEy

Wwalmis Can you try vel estimator @ 50 and Damper LPF @ 12Hz It's also possible to use t...

TheAmazinGreat•11/24/24, 1:49 PM

Thank you for the tips! I’m currently at vel 100 and acc 50. Damper LPF at 15 and 20 had minimal effect so I did not try to tune down further. Turning the estimator gains up eliminated the minor oscillation with hands off at idle state but in sim has had some more powerful oscillations under certain telem FFB effects. Maybe I’ve got them up too high now. I will try these settings later tonight. should I set acc gain back to the Rhino default?