VPforce Controls•14mo ago

Dont worry, you'll get there. It is a little bit overwhelming in the beginning, but it'll make sense

Dont worry, you'll get there.
It is a little bit overwhelming in the beginning, but it'll make sense eventually.
GN8

RogueSqdn•11/25/24, 10:36 PM

I’m a Viper guy mainly. Ordered the rhino for use with other jets, have FSSB MKII Ultra for the Viper

HHiob Dont worry, you'll get there. It is a little bit overwhelming in the beginning, ...

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 12:33 AM

stick doesnt want to recenter at all in Hornet

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 12:34 AM

f14billy•11/26/24, 1:28 AM

Adaptive recentering is your friend!

f14billy•11/26/24, 1:30 AM

Also having spring gain at 50% and the potentiometer at 45% means your spring gain is less than 25%. I'd say set spring gain to 100% and adjust the potentiometer to the spring gain setting that works for you while in the hornet.

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 1:40 AM

getting close on centering. My problem now is everytime I hit autopilot I get a master caution and the AP won't stay on because the stick is moving

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 1:47 AM

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 1:50 AM

just like I was thinking, appears to be a deadzone thing. Slowly increasing DZ in VP until I don't get the caution

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 1:51 AM

I think this does it

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 1:54 AM

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RRogueSqdn I think this does it

f14billy•11/26/24, 2:52 AM

Did you enable adaptive recentering? With that you shouldn't need any deazone and the stick would stay centered during autopilot in the hornet.

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:03 AM

yes I did, but it still jittered around when centered

RRogueSqdn yes I did, but it still jittered around when centered

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:11 AM

I've never experienced any jittering when in the hornet using the autopilot. I wonder if any of the filter settings may be causing that. A screenshot do the whole configuration page help to see if anyone notices an unusual value there. And maybe a video of the jittering showing the stick movement and also the config page as it happens.

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:12 AM

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:13 AM

You can very slightly see the in game stick shaking

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:14 AM

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:15 AM

You can’t hear the deedle deedle because of my headphones

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:18 AM

In the settings page you want to expand all the options on the right too.

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:19 AM

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:21 AM

In the video I can't see any jittering on the stick. However... Can you hit control + enter to see the controls in the lower left of the screen? Basically I want to see if in DCS the stick is actually centered.

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:22 AM

And it will show any jittering there more clearly too

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:22 AM

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:25 AM

That should not disengage the auto pilot. I'll try to see if I can somehow recreate that warning light when trying to activate the AP.

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:26 AM

I get the warrning when trying to engage it to begin with, can't even get it engaged unless I add that deadzone. Will be happy if we can do this without a DZ.

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:29 AM

Ok so then the jittering is the culprit for sure. Just for the fun of it... Does it happen if you put the potentiometer to 100%? Full spring force. No deadzone.

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:32 AM

Yes

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:35 AM

If it makes a difference, using RealSimulator Hornet grip with paddle extension

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:35 AM

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:35 AM

Grip connected to system via Bluetooth

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:36 AM

I read somewhere here of someone having oscillations with friction enabled. Can you disable friction, damper and inertia. And if disabling them fixes it can you enable them one by one to see if any of them causes the jitter?

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:37 AM

Standby

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:37 AM

I only have damper enabled. No friction nor inertia.

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:39 AM

Disabling did not fix

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:41 AM

Also disabled on global effects section

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:44 AM

Might be the periodic effects slider. I’ve got it down to 30 and it works. Hmmm

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:46 AM

Then some effect on telemffb may be causing the rumble and interfering with the AP. If I remember correctly I disabled the rpm effect on it or something like that.

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:46 AM

Since you are testing with the power at full military that effect would cause some significant periodic effect.

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:48 AM

I have my periodic effects set to 50% without issues.

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:48 AM

Jet rumble is at 12 in TelemFFB

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:48 AM

45hz

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:50 AM

Ok jet rumble is it. Disabling it made AP work. Now to see how far I need to turn it down

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:51 AM

Yes I disabled it because I didn't like it.

f14billy•11/26/24, 3:52 AM

Since I have a buttkicker under my seat that gives me the rumble I need.

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 3:56 AM

Ok 8 worked but was touchy. I turned it to 6 and it seems more reliable.

I don’t have a Buttkicker. Used to have a jetseat but it broke, plus was uncomfortable

RogueSqdn•11/26/24, 4:04 AM

Time to hit the sack. Thanks for all the help. I’ll start relearning the Hornet tomorrow.

NNumber481 Its identical to 2020 in operation. Enable MSFS in TelemFFB, start the sim. Th...

FlyingKiwi•11/26/24, 5:42 AM

Thanks @Number481 for responding, however for me, MSFS is enabled in TelemFFB but the Rhino is not visible as a control device in the Sim's settings.

CalVRsimer•11/26/24, 6:41 AM

Hi,
I don't have any spring effect at all anymore, can not get it back!!!
I did a factory reset by importing the Rhino defaults.
I didn't do FIRMWARE default.
Thanks for your help.

CCalVRsimer Hi, I don't have any spring effect at all anymore, can not get it back!!! I did ...

TheAmazinGreat•11/26/24, 6:45 AM

potentiometer is at 0, try turning the potentiometer up

TTheAmazinGreat potentiometer is at 0, try turning the potentiometer up

CalVRsimer•11/26/24, 6:46 AM

Pardon my ignorance but how do I do that?

CCalVRsimer Pardon my ignorance but how do I do that?

TheAmazinGreat•11/26/24, 6:47 AM

No worries, turn the little knob on the top of the Rhino, not the power button but the other little one.

Dont worry, you'll get there. It is a little bit overwhelming in the beginning, but it'll make sense

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