CWhat game are you playing and the stick shows up in the vkb config app?
TUnsure which rev version, I got the Rhino and adapter in 2023. Here's a screenshot of the BOT message, though it doesn't state which rev version the adapter is either:
TImportant to note I did get it working last night
COk great, based on timing you should have the rev b. Which is compatible with your black box 2. Hence able to get it to work.
TYeah I thought something was off when the orange box didn't work either, so I delved deeper into the unknowns of VKB software & firmware and was able to get it working.
SI have this exact combo but I havent actually installled the shaker kit lol. I just like that it looks like an F-16 stick so much... one of these days ill probably pop it on. the extra buttons are nice for Il-2
TCan chime in I've run multiple FFB peripherals at once, Jetseat + Rhino + MSFFB2, and it works, all the device needs is the game to keep sending out the data any given FFB/shaker needs and it should work, doesnt matter how many ffb units are connected
SI dont think the winwing shaker kit has much to do with FFB?
Sanyway I found the rumble/shaker stuff on the Rhino itself to be more than sufficient, I see no real need to add a little shaker module to the grip
Sjust do it for the extra buttons n switches
FCheers, yeah I don't really give a toss about the shaker I just wanted the extra buttons to work.
FSo close, only about a month to go according to the bot 
SYeah they'll work
FYes, please do. I can't see how to exit it...
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Manyone has a step or igs file for the FFB Mainboard to use in a cad design pls?
AI had to modify the VKB adapter because it as-is would not reach the pogo pins on my MCG Ultimate grip and while tinkering I noticed the hole runs through the whole adapter block, which made me think... Is it possible to remove the mini-DIN connector and route the grip-to-Blackbox cable through the whole base?
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YLet me start saying that I totally love Rhino FFB. I totally love what it adds in term of immersion. Unfortunately I ran lately into an issue with IL2, which is happening quite often. The stick would suddenly shut down out of nowhere in a middle of a combat, making the distinctive sound as if it was shut off by pressing the button. Then I push the button and turn it on, and it starts working again. During the operation, I usually crash, as I loose all controls which is really frustrating. Any idea what might cause this? This is quite annoying. Many thanks in advance.
FYeah something similar might have happened to me as well
FFrustrating since the only way to get ffb back in dcs after jt happens is to reslot
MThanks Smitty!
NTelemFFB Update v20241213
Some bug fixes and general enhancements. QoL update for MSFS24 users tired of random telemetry during menu transition and cut scenes. Does not solve all of the issues but helps a lot. Thanks @smitty for finding the simvars being used to catch these conditions.General
- General UI optimization
- Lighter weight UI theme
- Effect IDs visible in effects monitor (to match effect IDs visible in configurator debug tab)
- "Keep forces on Pause" feature now honors all active spring/damper/inertia/friction effects
DCS
- Option added in system settings to disable export script checking/auto-install for those using non-standard save games locations
IL-2
- Improved effect management during IL2 game window focus loss
- Added IL-2 system settings option to leave effects running during window focus loss. Can assist with effect tuning but may lead to odd behavior and/or stuck effects
- Added discrete effect settings for gunfire/rocket/bomb (was previously a single "weapon release" effect)
MSFS
- Work around some of the active telemetry issues in MSFS2024 when in menus, avatar mode and cinematic cut scenes
- Added many basic profiles for default MSFS2024 aircraft
- "Axis Control" now enabled by default
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All important improvents, all of them relevant to me as I got just back into IL-2 and also fly a career in MSFS2024, thank you, Sir!
BI’ve been lurking here for a couple of months watching my Rhino order get closer and closer. I’m currently using the WinWing Super Libra w/ extension and the WW Hornet grip. Once my Rhino ships I’ll be selling the Super Libra, but my question is whether to retain my WW Hornet grip to use with the Rhino, or pickup a Thrustmaster Hornet grip. In other words, adapter or no adapter, or do either of these grips work better or more recommended for use with the Rhino? I’m happy with my WW grip, but the TM grip is nearly the same, so would just prefer to go with the better option from the start.
ZHonestly if you like the winwing grip I’d stay with it unless you really wanted to try something different. From what I’ve seen from winwing, the switches and trigger is already pretty tactile, so I’m not sure if the TM grip will really be that much more advantageous. I went straight to a Tianhang grip for my first hornet grip and really enjoy its feel and tactility, but that’s another $300+
BThanks for the feedback. I was really just wondering about the best integration with the Rhino. But if they all need adaptors anyway, I guess it wouldn’t matter. I do like the WinWing grip
TWW for sure.
SI have the same gear and it works great. You likely won't need the WW extension on top of the Rhino adapter
9Anyone have a link to this discord channel? The link currently doesn’t work. I’m trying to find the files for the ACES II seat. Or if anyone knows where to find those files?
BWhoa I’ve never seen the Tianhang before. Intriguing. I may have to utilize my go-to excuse of “well, I’m already spending this much. May as well spend more”
ZIf you’ve got the coin, you can never have too many grips in your collection!
AThe thrustmaster module that VPForce sells, can I build a joystick using that module and then use it on Virpil since they suppor the TM protocol?
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AI'd like to make a few grips, but It would be really awesome if I could use the grips I make on my Virpil bases as well.
KLike the Viggen grip?
AI have zero interest in the viggen honestly
ANo my plans were to make a left hand F16 grip, but I wanted to explore exactly what that module is capable of, how many buttons etc. If it can do a good number of buttons might do a collective
AApache cyclic, stuff like that
AI've got the 3D models to make everything work, I could just do an arduino, but wanted to see if this was an option fora more plug and play solution.
KWell that's your loss. But still a guy called Troll just did a home brew Viggen stick that is compatible with the Virpil base. You could check with him?
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FRhino has arrived soon to be tested 
BHi guys, any tips for setting the Rhino up for the F-4 in DCS? I'm finding flying level and air refueling a complete nightmare. The aircraft seems so unstable in pitch and much too light for my preference. I've set the FFB gain in the F4 special options to 200% for roll and pitch but looking for something better. Any tips?
FDo you have adaptive recentering active in the configurator?
BHmmm, not sure. Let me check