VPforce Controls•13mo ago

Here's my vpforce config. I check my telemffb config

HH145Rotor-Sims The livery I'm using is the hems medical. Do you remember which didn't give you ...

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:09 PM

HEMS working well and the civilian not

DDracks HEMS working well and the civilian not

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:10 PM

Which HEMS? I have fire and medical too from add on

DDracks Here's my vpforce config. I check my telemffb config

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:13 PM

Do you have a screen shot of the main screen?

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:14 PM

Settings screen. I noticed alot is set to 100% which tells me your main settings will be lower

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:15 PM

Yeah let me few minutes (I start the pc)

DDracks Yeah let me few minutes (I start the pc)

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:15 PM

Thank you

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:18 PM

I just tried the settings above in your screen shot and the stick is not deviating.

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:19 PM

here's my settings page. I launch MSFS

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:19 PM

for TelemFFB settings

HH145Rotor-Sims Do you have a screen shot of the main screen?

Number481•12/27/24, 9:20 PM

what build are you running? Your issue sounds a lot like a known issue on build 83 of the H160 that I've not seen on build 500 of the H145 but Dave (HPG) was surprised they were acting different than eachother. The SEMA values get into a runway state that cause the joystick to chase.

When it occurs, do you see the yellow square chasing the green crosshair on the VMS page?

NNumber481 what build are you running? Your issue sounds a lot like a known issue on build...

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:22 PM

Build 500 for the H145

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:22 PM

But I tried the settings dracks showed me and the issue isn't present

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:23 PM

I think it has to do with the dead zone radius and rescaling? I'll have disable each one and check

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:23 PM

It's perhaps the "override trim" who wasnt enabled in your first capture (?)

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:24 PM

MSFS is loading, I can send you my telemFFB settings

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:24 PM

@Number481 it's the override trim. If it isn't checked the stick drifts

DDracks MSFS is loading, I can send you my telemFFB settings

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:24 PM

That would be great.

HH145Rotor-Sims That would be great.

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:25 PM

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:25 PM

@dracks do you fly the H145 in real life?

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:26 PM

If you have an unexplicated "override" on your screen => put higher deadzone values (in axis control).

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:27 PM

Yeah but on the left seat

I'm a old paramedic

HH145Rotor-Sims @Number481 it's the override trim. If it isn't checked the stick drifts

Number481•12/27/24, 9:27 PM

override trim in configurator? No, its definitely not that.

The most important thing for the HPG Helis and TelemFFB is that your stick properly centers when hands off. If it is not within "hands off deadzone" percent of center, the helicopter will think you are "hands on". The entire AFCS emulation is predicated on knowing when the user is deflecting the stick from the current center point and the only way we can do that is by axis position since we don't have "force" sensing.

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:27 PM

Now I'm working at the hospital

DDracks Yeah but on the left seat 😉 I'm a old paramedic

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:28 PM

That's awesome!

NNumber481 override trim in configurator? No, its definitely not that. The most important...

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:29 PM

When I turn off override trim in the config and I use the trim release the stick drifts. When I turn it on it doesn't.

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:33 PM

HH145Rotor-Sims When I turn off override trim in the config and I use the trim release the stick...

Number481•12/27/24, 9:33 PM

when you turn it on, all you are doing is masking the problem because configurator is now trying to control the spring offset with the trim buttons you have bound there. I can absolutely promise you that you don't need that enabled. Something else is up.

A clue will be what I asked before about the VMS page

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:34 PM

Yaah you have the override message (right pfd)

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:34 PM

It's a hands-on issue

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:35 PM

Try to put higher values in axis control or the H145 tablet

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:36 PM

I put "None" in the tablet and 15/12% in TelemFFB (I had big shakes in my rig)

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:36 PM

@Number481

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:37 PM

You see the Hands-on in the tablet => rectangle on the word

DDracks You see the Hands-on in the tablet => rectangle on the word

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:38 PM

Yeah that will come on at the same time as the hands on in the vms control page.

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:38 PM

I have it set to none and set the telemffb to the same 15/12%

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:39 PM

It's possible you have big vibration on your right (or big effects in TelemFFB)

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:39 PM

Try "ignore" in the tablet

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:39 PM

My rig is not moving completely stationary.

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:41 PM

Okay so when set to none it chases the yellow box. When set to ignore it doesn't chase the box but the stick drifts

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:41 PM

I imagine you have a good feel for the VP's engines, though?

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:41 PM

@Number481 Is there a solution to this?

DDracks I imagine you have a good feel for the VP's engines, though?

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:42 PM

What do you mean?

HH145Rotor-Sims I have it set to none and set the telemffb to the same 15/12%

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:42 PM

Try with higher value. It's so specific for all of our devices

DDracks Try with higher value. It's so specific for all of our devices

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:43 PM

I did. No change

HH145Rotor-Sims What do you mean?

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:44 PM

What I mean is that the vibrations generated by the VP's engines will be felt in your rig. This can lead to high sensitivity, and you'll have to turn up your deadzone.

DDracks What I mean is that the vibrations generated by the VP's engines will be felt in...

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:45 PM

I have all those effects off. I won't introduce more variables than needed

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:47 PM

I think we exhausted all the troubleshooting we can. We need to know from the devs

DracksOP•12/27/24, 9:49 PM

Number481 is a dev

Number481•12/27/24, 9:49 PM

without TelemFFB running (just using hardware trim).. how does your centering look when you go far off center? Needs to be nearly spot on...

NNumber481 without TelemFFB running (just using hardware trim).. how does your centering lo...

H145Rotor-Sims•12/27/24, 9:50 PM

Yes it is in all positions

Here's my vpforce config. I check my telemffb config

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