i don't often ssr tbh, it's more work than i spend on the sites i build - i usually react csr + vite

i don't often ssr tbh, it's more work than i spend on the sites i build - i usually react csr + vite

but, for the few sites i do ssr i astro + react, works great.

WalshyOP•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

i know sveltekit is very popular too

WalshyOP•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

remix also works but is not my personal taste

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

i still think the only outlier here is nextjs

WalshyOP•3/12/25, 10:32 PM

and wip https://orange-js.dev/

WalshyOP•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

yeah nextjs is... hard. they make it hard for anyone that aren't them to support

sumit•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

does remix behave well with cloudflare?

it fit my bill - old + less pain

WalshyOP•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

it does

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

i mean it really also depends what you are doing

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

hono with jsx would probably be rock solid as well

WalshyOP•3/12/25, 10:33 PM

yeah could also do that

SSilvan hono with jsx would probably be rock solid as well

sumit•3/12/25, 10:34 PM

too new, i like stability with stack

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

most frontend frameworks were rewritten at least once in the last 2 years pretty sure hono jsx is older than that

sumit•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

thanks folks

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

if you want to ai your stuff together remix/react if you want ssr i love sveltekit

SSilvan most frontend frameworks were rewritten at least once in the last 2 years pretty...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:35 PM

yeah that's what I don't like about next (amongst hundreds of other things)

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

Personally I stay away from Remix since they announced they're rolling it into React Router

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

Just because then it's no longer a framework, really... it's a package that does a lot of things.

infiniteloop3r•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

Has anybody gotten nodejs_compat_populate_process_envnodejs_compat_populate_process_env to work yet? I have a repro of it not functioning for a newly created repo with everything up to date. Deets: https://community.cloudflare.com/t/the-new-process-env-support-in-cloudflare-workers-does-not-work-properly/778592/2

IIsaac McFadyen Personally I stay away from Remix since they announced they're rolling it into R...

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:36 PM

i thought if you used the newest major of remix its a codemon away from migrating no?

SSilvan i thought if you used the newest major of remix its a codemon away from migratin...

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

Yes but I don't trust codemods, they're never perfect.

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

i dont like react but id even go so far as tanstack start because i trust tanner. but that isnt even in the docs yet and brand new as well

sumit•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

just the name has changed for remix

SSilvan i dont like react but id even go so far as tanstack start because i trust tanner...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:37 PM

tanstack is too new for me - i like stability in web frameworks

Ssumit oh i wasn't aware of this - pages is being deprecated? last i used it 2 years ...

James•3/12/25, 10:38 PM

At some point Cloudflare may officially deprecate it, but it's effectively abandoned today and hasn't received any updates for new Cloudflare bindings and things in about a year, with many tooling versions now being outdated, nearing EOL, and with security issues.

JJames At some point Cloudflare may officially deprecate it, but it's effectively aband...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:38 PM

thank you for saving me from ruining my next few months

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:40 PM

oh btw cf people, i heard partkit got “acquired” by cf and we are getting partyserver now. too early for its own channel?

sumit•3/12/25, 10:44 PM

ok so for production webapps i guess the answer is remix?

sumit•3/12/25, 10:44 PM

i mean react router now*

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:45 PM

i have multiple production apps using sveltekit using d1,kv, cache, rate limiting etc and i have 0 issues either. workers have been stable for ages. all that changed is assets being stored on a cdn now

sumit•3/12/25, 10:46 PM

sveltekit had bugs as a framework when i tried it two years ago, im not trying it again in atleast 5 years

i don't want to see bugs in the basic things i build with cloudflare (later I settled on next.js which also turned out to be a pain)

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:47 PM

if you are that worried about it

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:47 PM

SPA + workers

Silvan•3/12/25, 10:47 PM

or well jquery if you need that much trust

sumit•3/12/25, 10:47 PM

jQuery is not needed now - javascript has everything we need in it

sumit•3/12/25, 10:48 PM

it's old but unnecessary

sumit•3/12/25, 10:48 PM

not everything that's old is good

IIsaac McFadyen Personally I stay away from Remix since they announced they're rolling it into R...

sumit•3/12/25, 10:50 PM

if you stay away from remix what do you use in prod?

Ssumit if you stay away from remix what do you use in prod?

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:55 PM

SvelteKit and Astro mainly.

Isaac McFadyen•3/12/25, 10:55 PM

I don't like React much either, only use it when I need to.

sumit•3/12/25, 10:58 PM

oh okay

matt•3/13/25, 2:49 AM

can a worker connect to a postgres server running in a tailscale network?

Erisa•3/13/25, 4:37 AM

workers have no special way of connecting to tailscale, youd have to expose it to the internet somehow
probably smth like https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive/configuration/connect-to-private-database/

Cloudflare Docs

Connect to a private database using Tunnel · Hyperdrive

Hyperdrive can securely connect to your private databases using Cloudflare Tunnel and Cloudflare Access.

matt•3/13/25, 5:10 AM

thanks @Erisa - i imagine this should be fairly secure too, given that a tunnel will not allow non-http connections, whereas hyperdrive must have been provided with an exemption

Erisa•3/13/25, 5:11 AM

non-http is possible as long as there's an agent on the other side proxying it back again, hyperdrive has that built in to the service

Erisa•3/13/25, 5:11 AM

and it's secure yes

Ashley•3/13/25, 8:59 AM

Just wanted to say thank you to whoever changed Email Workers to be able to reply to threaded emails, it’s such a huge improvement

esselungo•3/13/25, 10:24 AM

anybody willing to help for the conversation in crazy spikes of CPU time. how to troubleshoot?

kjanoudi•3/13/25, 11:16 AM

can anyone let me know the pricing structure for the browser rendering workers binding APIs

Kkjanoudi can anyone let me know the pricing structure for the browser rendering workers b...

Ashley•3/13/25, 1:01 PM

It’s free on the Workers Paid plan (not available on the free plan)

i don't often ssr tbh, it's more work than i spend on the sites i build - i usually react csr + vite

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