most frontend frameworks were rewritten at least once in the last 2 years pretty sure hono jsx is ol
most frontend frameworks were rewritten at least once in the last 2 years pretty sure hono jsx is older than that
Sthanks folks
Sif you want to ai your stuff together remix/react if you want ssr i love sveltekit
Syeah that's what I don't like about next (amongst hundreds of other things)
IPersonally I stay away from Remix since they announced they're rolling it into React Router
IJust because then it's no longer a framework, really... it's a package that does a lot of things.
IHas anybody gotten
nodejs_compat_populate_process_env to work yet? I have a repro of it not functioning for a newly created repo with everything up to date. Deets: https://community.cloudflare.com/t/the-new-process-env-support-in-cloudflare-workers-does-not-work-properly/778592/2
Si thought if you used the newest major of remix its a codemon away from migrating no?
IYes but I don't trust codemods, they're never perfect.
Si dont like react but id even go so far as tanstack start because i trust tanner. but that isnt even in the docs yet and brand new as well
Sjust the name has changed for remix
Stanstack is too new for me - i like stability in web frameworks
JAt some point Cloudflare may officially deprecate it, but it's effectively abandoned today and hasn't received any updates for new Cloudflare bindings and things in about a year, with many tooling versions now being outdated, nearing EOL, and with security issues.
Sthank you for saving me from ruining my next few months 
Soh btw cf people, i heard partkit got “acquired” by cf and we are getting partyserver now. too early for its own channel?
Sok so for production webapps i guess the answer is remix?
Si mean react router now*
Si have multiple production apps using sveltekit using d1,kv, cache, rate limiting etc and i have 0 issues either. workers have been stable for ages. all that changed is assets being stored on a cdn now
Ssveltekit had bugs as a framework when i tried it two years ago, im not trying it again in atleast 5 years
i don't want to see bugs in the basic things i build with cloudflare (later I settled on next.js which also turned out to be a pain)
i don't want to see bugs in the basic things i build with cloudflare (later I settled on next.js which also turned out to be a pain)
Sif you are that worried about it
SSPA + workers 
Sor well jquery if you need that much trust
SjQuery is not needed now - javascript has everything we need in it
Sit's old but unnecessary
Snot everything that's old is good
Sif you stay away from remix what do you use in prod?
ISvelteKit and Astro mainly.
II don't like React much either, only use it when I need to.
Soh okay
Mcan a worker connect to a postgres server running in a tailscale network?
Eworkers have no special way of connecting to tailscale, youd have to expose it to the internet somehow
probably smth like https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive/configuration/connect-to-private-database/
probably smth like https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive/configuration/connect-to-private-database/
Cloudflare Docs
Hyperdrive can securely connect to your private databases using Cloudflare Tunnel and Cloudflare Access.
Mthanks @Erisa - i imagine this should be fairly secure too, given that a tunnel will not allow non-http connections, whereas hyperdrive must have been provided with an exemption
Enon-http is possible as long as there's an agent on the other side proxying it back again, hyperdrive has that built in to the service
Eand it's secure yes
AJust wanted to say thank you to whoever changed Email Workers to be able to reply to threaded emails, it’s such a huge improvement 
Eanybody willing to help for the conversation in crazy spikes of CPU time. how to troubleshoot?
Kcan anyone let me know the pricing structure for the browser rendering workers binding APIs
AIt’s free on the Workers Paid plan (not available on the free plan)
/why does something like
in a workers fetch() cause the worker to exceed cpu time limit?
although it could also be memory too, since the file cuts out around the 128mb mark
when using
in a workers fetch() cause the worker to exceed cpu time limit?
although it could also be memory too, since the file cuts out around the 128mb mark
when using
sourceResponse.body no such issues occur, so i assume tis something with the pipe?
Syou're welcome 
let us know if something breaks
let us know if something breaks
Eas opposed to what?!? 
Rtrust and jquery in the same sentence please don't use jquery. I haven't heard a use case in 10 years. Wordpress is to blame for it's continued existence, I'm sure.
please don't use jquery. I haven't heard a use case in 10 years. Wordpress is to blame for it's continued existence, I'm sure.RI agree with this, adding the caveat that I never need to. Even Astro's implicit embracing of React is troublesome for me.
Si was being sarcastic
HRegion: Moon, coming :soontm: /j
Sas long as it isnt mars
RI gathered. Sorry if it seemed otherwise. 
IMy "need to" is primarily when a specific (often non-web) application requires me to. For example, the other day I wrote a custom extension for Raycast (https://www.raycast.com/) and they require React.
CDeployed to the Milky way galaxy
II definitely never use it for web if I can :lul: