Is https://developers.cloudflare.com/stream/webrtc-beta/ dead or its normal to take this long to mak

Is https://developers.cloudflare.com/stream/webrtc-beta/ dead or its normal to take this long to make an official release?

Cloudflare Docs

WebRTC · Cloudflare Stream docs

Sub-second latency live streaming (using WHIP) and playback (using WHEP) to unlimited concurrent viewers.

Ssl0wik Is https://developers.cloudflare.com/stream/webrtc-beta/ dead or its normal to t...

1984 Ford Laser•4/1/25, 8:59 PM

Huh? Alpha comes before beta not after. Plenty of people have been using WebRTC fine

11984 Ford Laser Huh? Alpha comes before beta not after. Plenty of people have been using WebRTC ...

sl0wikOP•4/1/25, 9:01 PM

I mean official release. Sorry.

11984 Ford Laser Huh? Alpha comes before beta not after. Plenty of people have been using WebRTC ...

sl0wikOP•4/1/25, 9:02 PM

Its in beta for like 2 years

xfated•4/3/25, 6:08 AM

Hi, i noticed that when I update the caption on the video, refreshing the page still uses the captions cached on the client side. is there any way to bust the cache to fetch new captions?

Xxfated Hi, i noticed that when I update the caption on the video, refreshing the page s...

1984 Ford Laser•4/3/25, 8:01 AM

How long after changing did you test? I wonder if captions rely on KV for metadata, which have an up-to 60sec global propagation period

Xxfated Hi, i noticed that when I update the caption on the video, refreshing the page s...

1984 Ford Laser•4/3/25, 8:05 AM

Also did you do a hard refresh with Ctrl+F5 or similar?

Oleksii Kilevoi•4/3/25, 8:15 AM

Was trying to create Stream fro cloudflare dashboard and having this error

Authorization Failure: The authentication credentials are not authorized to perform the request. Verify the credentials and try again.

Authorization Failure: The authentication credentials are not authorized to perform the request. Verify the credentials and try again.

11984 Ford Laser How long after changing did you test? I wonder if captions rely on KV for metada...

xfated•4/3/25, 9:39 AM

yep. after hard reload, it still uses the cached version:

200 OK (from disk cache)

200 OK (from disk cache)

i tested just shortly after adding the captions. (accessing the video via incognito works since there's no local cached version)
i'm trying to figure out how to ignore this local cache.

i'm using an iframe to render the video, and within the iframe the request to fetch captions is made with a url like

https://cloudflarestream.com/{video_id}/text/en.vtt

https://cloudflarestream.com/{video_id}/text/en.vtt

is there any way to change the Cache-Control response headers for this request? its currently set to

max-age=1800

max-age=1800

OOleksii Kilevoi Was trying to create Stream fro cloudflare dashboard and having this error `Auth...

Oleksii Kilevoi•4/3/25, 2:13 PM

Disregard didn't realise you have to enable it and pay separately here https://developers.cloudflare.com/stream

Cloudflare Docs

Overview · Cloudflare Stream docs

Cloudflare Stream lets you or your end users upload, store, encode, and deliver live and on-demand video with one API, without configuring or maintaining infrastructure.

Lla.x.rc No, it is not dead. :ablobwobwork:

sl0wikOP•4/5/25, 5:06 PM

The main blocker is the lack of recording. Unlikely someone would do live stream without option to record it.

Ssl0wik The main blocker is the lack of recording. Unlikely someone would do live stream...

1984 Ford Laser•4/5/25, 10:53 PM

I mean they have said it's being worked on. Recently the WebRTC on Stream was recently moved over to the Calls backend, so it does receive updates. I'm personally hoping we can get some compositing options for the stream channels

1984 Ford Laser•4/9/25, 9:59 PM

Nothing for Stream during dev week?

Gagan Suie•4/10/25, 10:49 PM

hi, how do I enable "Low-Latency HLS Support" on a live-input by default?

Gagan Suie•4/10/25, 10:52 PM

I see hlsUrl has

protocol=llhls

protocol=llhls

but we need to enable it for the iframe's live-input by default.

Gagan Suie•4/10/25, 11:01 PM

found it!

preferLowLatency: true

preferLowLatency: true

1984 Ford Laser•4/12/25, 7:23 AM

Cannot wait for the Containers open beta so then I can finally use ffmpeg within CF directly

11984 Ford Laser Cannot wait for the Containers open beta so then I can finally use ffmpeg within...

kai•4/13/25, 6:36 PM

What do you use ffmpeg for?

a7medo778•4/13/25, 8:52 PM

there should a stream option without any fancy realtime transcoding options, but a much lower price

a7medo778•4/13/25, 8:52 PM

its kinda expensive to use atm

Kkai What do you use ffmpeg for?

1984 Ford Laser•4/13/25, 9:11 PM

encoding video

Aa7medo778 there should a stream option without any fancy realtime transcoding options, but...

1984 Ford Laser•4/13/25, 9:11 PM

Its actually really well priced as far as video streaming goes

a7medo778•4/13/25, 9:12 PM

Come on, streaming an hour event is like 3000$ for 20k viewers

Not expensive but for cdn word with bw guage its kinda is

a7medo778•4/13/25, 9:17 PM

i understand that transconding is expensive, but sockets and bw should be CF flex territory

Aa7medo778 i understand that transconding is expensive, but sockets and bw should be CF fle...

1984 Ford Laser•4/13/25, 9:36 PM

Well do the transcode yourself offplatform and serve it from R2 or something. See how that stacks up

1984 Ford Laser•4/13/25, 9:37 PM

If you have 20K viewers, you should be adequately monetised to support the event. I had a $1K cost for a 3 hour sports with "just" 1-2K viewers. $3K for 20K is good

11984 Ford Laser Well do the transcode yourself offplatform and serve it from R2 or something. Se...

a7medo778•4/13/25, 10:27 PM

i actually did for a vod project, was wonderful raelly really good and affordable since you only pay for storage and requests

a7medo778•4/13/25, 10:28 PM

but live streaming with sub second latency is a difffrent beast to tackle

Aa7medo778 but live streaming with sub second latency is a difffrent beast to tackle

1984 Ford Laser•4/13/25, 11:15 PM

Which is part of the reason why it costs what it costs. It's not easy doing what they're doing, and I think the pricing model is a good balance and is better than other platforms who charge per GB instead of per min

a7medo778•4/13/25, 11:17 PM

One can only request i guess, currently the pricing makes whole lot of ideas not feasible tbh

a7medo778•4/13/25, 11:18 PM

Sadly the current state of sub second latency scenes means only startups who can burn cash initially can do interactive streams

1984 Ford Laser•4/14/25, 4:59 AM

Sounds like you aren't adequately monetized tbh. I am most definitely not in a startup

AAlex Has anyone else had trouble adding Stream notifications to their account? I can ...

1984 Ford Laser•4/15/25, 12:26 AM

Do you have a Stream sub on your account?

1984 Ford Laser•4/15/25, 12:26 AM

It shows below Security Insights too

AAlex I have the included amount of time that Business accounts have by default. FWIW ...

1984 Ford Laser•4/15/25, 12:56 AM

Im thinking maybe its because you dont have a separate Stream subscription, I am not an expert but thats what comes to mind for me. a sub to Stream is entirely separate to your Pro/Business/Ent. subscription

Hzao•4/16/25, 12:05 PM

Is Stream down?

Hzao•4/16/25, 12:08 PM

I believe Stream API is down. All requests return 502 Bad Gateway.

HHzao I believe Stream API is down. All requests return 502 Bad Gateway.

erkkah•4/16/25, 12:23 PM

Yep. I'm getting the same.

HHzao I believe Stream API is down. All requests return 502 Bad Gateway.

erkkah•4/16/25, 12:27 PM

Starting to get requests through now, though.

Eerkkah Starting to get requests through now, though.

Hzao•4/16/25, 12:28 PM

:plus1green:

Hzao•4/16/25, 12:30 PM

But it’s strange we still don’t see any status page update.

Hzao•4/16/25, 2:47 PM

Status here, looks like it’s still not fully recovered
https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/9l0mt6ctfdsk

Stream Availability Issues

1984 Ford Laser•4/17/25, 1:59 AM

Minor UI complaint: when browsing the list of live inputs, you should let me open each one in a new tab! Currently I have to open them one by one, when Im trying to get through a dozen at once its frustrating

1984 Ford Laser•4/18/25, 7:23 AM

When generating an MP4 download, are there any particulars around speed, or when generating multiple clips at a time? Would be good to be able to predict load times as I usually have a bulk lot (5-20 3hour videos) to generate more or less at once, get an idea of how the OTE encoder operates im that regard

Is https://developers.cloudflare.com/stream/webrtc-beta/ dead or its normal to take this long to mak

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