Silk.NET•3y ago

not just linux

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:44 PM

this goes to show that silk docs are made by windows guys i guess

LLyris the Kitori not just linux

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:45 PM

yeah, tho that's my assumption given that I do use it

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:45 PM

most of silk 2.x's active development happens on linux, and the tutorials are made by @grifon.petre who also uses linux tmk

LLyris the Kitori most of silk 2.x's active development happens on linux, and the tutorials are ma...

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:45 PM

hymmm

Aqua•6/29/23, 9:45 PM

mhm

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:46 PM

strange

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:46 PM

the defaults tend to be defined by the graphics driver vendor

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:46 PM

it's not a "linux thing", it's an OpenGL thing

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:46 PM

and yeah our lead maintainer is an arch btw user

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:46 PM

cuz i've been using those tutorials and there was no mentioning about it

PPerksey and yeah our lead maintainer is an arch btw user

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:46 PM

hellll ye

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:46 PM

haha

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:46 PM

probably should be some mention

LLyris the Kitori probably should be some mention

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:46 PM

yep

LLasek cuz i've been using those tutorials and there was no mentioning about it

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:47 PM

SKYEEEEEEEE

Aqua•6/29/23, 9:47 PM

i am of the personal opinion that silk should have a default value, however that's not the case
however i can add in a mention

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:47 PM

I vaguely recall having some sort of argument about it

Aqua•6/29/23, 9:47 PM

i've been meaning to write some new tutorials, however when i am motivated atm i am busy working on like 4 different projects at once

PPerksey I vaguely recall having some sort of argument about it

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:48 PM

it was multiple long discussions on coffee & code + working group meetings

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:48 PM

man someone should get ChatGPT to write meeting notes for those

AAqua i've been meaning to write some new tutorials, however when i am motivated atm i...

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:48 PM

oh god

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:49 PM

ending concensus basically was "lets let the driver do what it wants, it probably has a reason for its default value + thats how other windowing APIs work, lets match their behaviour"

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:49 PM

and also "its not a big enough problem to warrant a breaking change"

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:49 PM

fair that does sound like a reasonable conclusion

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:50 PM

that one I’m now less worried about because it has reached the “widespread confusion and/or misuse” line for me

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:50 PM

yeah, we should 100% reconsider for 3.0

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:50 PM

which we previously used to remove implicit in

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:50 PM

let’s do a coffee and code and discuss it

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:50 PM

definitely

LLyris the Kitori and also "its not a big enough problem to warrant a breaking change"

Lasek•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

hym… out of curiosity as someone who isn't very expirienced. Is setting a default value a breaking change ?

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

yes

Aqua•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

id like to join in as well if thats alright
havent spoken to literally anyone in ages outside of text

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

yeah it’s behaviourally breaking

AAqua id like to join in as well if thats alright havent spoken to literally anyone in...

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

sure thing, probably won’t be tomorrow but maybe on the weekend

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:51 PM

I’m also 1 working week away from being unemployed so I’ll have a lot more time on my hands

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:52 PM

im free until maybe the 12th?

PPerksey I’m also 1 working week away from being unemployed so I’ll have a lot more time ...

Aqua•6/29/23, 9:52 PM

wait what

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:52 PM

I resigned to do a gap year over in the states

LLyris the Kitori im free until maybe the 12th?

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:52 PM

my parents are leaving for vacation on the 1st, returning on the 8th (so i'll be 100% free that whole week), then some day on the week of the 12th im flying up to washington

Perksey•6/29/23, 9:52 PM

last day is Thursday

Aqua•6/29/23, 9:53 PM

ohhh i see

PPerksey I resigned to do a gap year over in the states

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 9:59 PM

what state? perhaps we could have the US silk meetup

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:02 PM

guys, I have a question

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 10:02 PM

probably want to put it in #help-and-questions

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:03 PM

would this be approved for merging into tutorial in OnRender()OnRender()

//_window.Position = new Vector2D<int>(Random.Shared.Next(0,1000), Random.Shared.Next(0,1000)); //HEHE FUNNY, WINDOW GOES BRRRRRRRRRRR

//_window.Position = new Vector2D<int>(Random.Shared.Next(0,1000), Random.Shared.Next(0,1000)); //HEHE FUNNY, WINDOW GOES BRRRRRRRRRRR

LLyris the Kitori probably want to put it in #help-and-questions

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:03 PM

not this one I guess

LLasek would this be approved for merging into tutorial in `OnRender()` ``` //_window...

Lasek•6/29/23, 10:04 PM

Just for the pure chaos : >

LLasek would this be approved for merging into tutorial in `OnRender()` ``` //_window...

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 10:05 PM

a bit blunt of an answer, but: no

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 10:05 PM

perhaps that could be part of a separate tutorial series teaching all the functions of the windowing library (without the comment though)

Lyris the KitoriOP•6/29/23, 10:05 PM

but not in the core OpenGL tutorials

not just linux

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