VPforce Controls•3y ago

I can't seem to update my firmware. The stick works, shows in Win10, etc, but I get this:

BattisOP•9/20/23, 8:57 AM

Using Edge.

BattisOP•9/20/23, 8:58 AM

Disconnect/reconnect does not help. Power managent for USB disabled.

BBattis I can't seem to update my firmware. The stick works, shows in Win10, etc, but I ...

walmis•9/20/23, 9:25 AM

🧰support

BattisOP•9/20/23, 10:14 AM

No Joy

BBattis No Joy

walmis•9/20/23, 10:31 AM

Try rebooting maybe

walmis•9/20/23, 10:32 AM

Btw, you haven't changed this in the configurator?

BattisOP•9/20/23, 10:32 AM

Willdo. No.

BattisOP•9/20/23, 10:33 AM

Does it matter, whitch DIR to open the power shell?

walmis•9/20/23, 10:33 AM

No, just open as an administrator

BattisOP•9/20/23, 10:34 AM

Ok. I’ll try rebooting.

BattisOP•9/20/23, 12:37 PM

Great success!

mark turner•9/20/23, 4:34 PM

Sorry if I am being dumb....see the new 1016 configurator software is out, but where do you get the firmware?

amadeus•9/20/23, 4:36 PM

That same website where you download the configurator, acts as a firmware updater

amadeus•9/20/23, 4:37 PM

https://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/

mark turner•9/20/23, 4:40 PM

thank you

JJon (Bounty_V)https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/972180323787997255/9725922226608...

Thraxas79•9/20/23, 5:48 PM

in the showcase there are only the Board and the motors at the pictures, but at the FAQ it's mentioned "and wires for quick connection to test" so I would think all necessary connectors and wires are included but I'm not shure, even less after your answer
biggest problem would be the 5pin mini-din cable to connect the Warthog grip, because I could only find 4,6 and 9 pin to buy

TThraxas79 in the showcase there are only the Board and the motors at the pictures, but at ...

Subsonic•9/20/23, 6:25 PM

There you go.....
These two together and a soldering iron....you are good to go.

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cui-devices/MD-50PL100/500828

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09SX5LBRG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Keszoox XH 2.54mm Male & Female JST Connector Kit with 22AWG Pre-Cr...

Keszoox XH 2.54mm Male & Female JST Connector Kit with 22AWG Pre-Crimped Cables Wire,(Total 90Pcs) 2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10 Pin Housing JST Adapter Cable Connector（5 Colors 150mm）

Number481•9/20/23, 6:40 PM

here's an additional source where I got mine... https://www.showmecables.com/by-category/connectors-adapters/din/5-pin-din

ShowMeCables

5 Pin DIN Connectors | Standard & Mini DIN

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Simon2012•9/20/23, 8:38 PM

I'm getting this error trying to update the firmware
Any idea ?

Simon2012•9/20/23, 9:55 PM

Ah, I just saw the same problem was already mentioned above, I'll try the given solution tomorrow.

amadeus•9/21/23, 4:10 AM

with the firmware/software update, are these the new recommended settings for LPF?

amadeus•9/21/23, 4:10 AM

or are there some new defaults that would be recommended

Virus•9/21/23, 11:21 AM

Hi, I just received the winwing adapter. But the button presses are not detected. I checked multiple times and the connection with the base seems good to me.
however i tested putting the debug grip.
And i see FFs only

Virus•9/21/23, 11:22 AM

as seen in this image

Virus•9/21/23, 11:35 AM

I think i solved it...I had to unscrew the little spacer below the base of the adapter, maybe with it the pins didn't enter their holes.

Boeing757sim•9/21/23, 2:09 PM

Any tips of how to wire the grip board ? There are 6pins on the grip board and 5 on the main board - which pin do I not wire up

Simon2012•9/21/23, 2:40 PM

So I did a quick test after attaching the base, firmware up-to-date, calibration done, nothing else modified.
FFB activated in DCS, power on (big red know on).
20 cm extension and TM F-18 grip.
And I'm like : where is my force feedback ?

The forces are so light, it feels like my old base (Virpil T-50CM2) with the lightest springs and tension tuned to the minimum...
Turned the black knob all the way to the right, it's slightly better but so so light compared to any real plane I ever flew (from small to big ones, props and jets).

So what did I miss ?

I tested with the Spitfire, Tomcat, Mirage F1, Harrier.
The Spit and the Tomcat are nice, but the forces are too light, and not increasing/decreasing with an increase/decrease of speed (the stick should become stiffer the faster you go and should become more "sluggish" when you slow down)

VVirus I think i solved it...I had to unscrew the little spacer below the base of the a...

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𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀•9/21/23, 2:43 PM

Great! Is it also recognizing the grip now?

BBoeing757sim Any tips of how to wire the grip board ? There are 6pins on the grip board and 5...

Subsonic•9/21/23, 2:48 PM

SSimon2012 So I did a quick test after attaching the base, firmware up-to-date, calibration...

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𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀•9/21/23, 2:48 PM

Try some of the other profiles 📙knowledge-baseRhino Profile Sharing (though you probably have to recalibrate for your stick) . Primarily you need to increase Friction, Inertia, and Damper to get a heavier feeling. Feel free to experiment.

Boeing757sim•9/21/23, 2:52 PM

@subsonic1748 Thanks a lot

SSimon2012 So I did a quick test after attaching the base, firmware up-to-date, calibration...

Number481•9/21/23, 2:53 PM

post screenshots of your configurator settings (both settings and effects tabs)

BBoeing757sim @subsonic1748 Thanks a lot

Subsonic•9/21/23, 3:01 PM

@walmis maybe pin the diagram in support sir?

NNumber481 post screenshots of your configurator settings (both settings and effects tabs)

Simon2012•9/21/23, 3:03 PM

I'm not in front of the computer right now, but I did not modify anything there, so it's the "factory settings"

�𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀Try some of the other profiles https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1...

Simon2012•9/21/23, 3:03 PM

I'll have a look, thanks

SSimon2012 I'll have a look, thanks

walmis•9/21/23, 3:55 PM

By my calculations, you should get ~2.2kg of force at max with a 40cm lever (15cm Rhino + 20cm ext + grip) .

Formula: F_kg = 0.9 / lever in meters

Formula: F_kg = 0.9 / lever in meters

You can stiffen up the the spring by reducing the throw range by using "axis scaling" feature or using spring mapping tool.

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 4:12 PM

updated firmware and software, set grip to the realsimulator 64 button, still not seeing the hat presses light up in the vpforce software

�𝔐𝔬𝔯𝔭𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔢 💀Great! Is it also recognizing the grip now?

Virus•9/21/23, 4:27 PM

It was not easy as to plug it in...but now it works

MMashedPotato updated firmware and software, set grip to the realsimulator 64 button, still no...

walmis•9/21/23, 4:50 PM

Interesting, will have to double check.

Wwalmis Interesting, will have to double check.

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 4:59 PM

might have something to do with how RS sends those inputs to windows. They come off a second virtual device

walmis•9/21/23, 5:02 PM

But if the presses were visible with the debug grip profile, it should work. Can you recheck the debug grip profile which bytes change on button presses?

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 5:02 PM

yeah, one sec

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 5:06 PM

[11:05:48.706] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FB 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:48.908] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:49.109] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:49.309] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:49.511] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF F7 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:49.712] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:49.912] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:50.114] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:50.315] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:50.516] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:50.717] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[11:05:50.917] FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FD 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 5:06 PM

The FB, F7, and FD are the 3 hats

MashedPotato•9/21/23, 5:06 PM

in debug, the grip constantly sends the FF, not sure if that's just the poll rate, or what

harry•9/21/23, 5:07 PM

hi @walmis , i am still loosing ffb. But at least sometimes it seems to be only the spring force while the others are still ok. Do you have further Ideas?

blave549•9/21/23, 5:21 PM

I have been experiencing something that seems to be specific to the aircraft that I'm using (Cowansim MD500E). TelemFFB throws exceptions pretty much every time I fly, and it seems to happen whenever TelemFFB attempts to generate an effect. It does not do this with the Cabri G2, which works fine. Here's the log... I'm assuming I need to add something to the config.user.ini but I don't know what.

MD500E_TelemFFB_log.txt3.95KB

Number481•9/21/23, 5:29 PM

@_blave could be any number of things that aren't implemented properly in that aircraft, or in a way that TelemFFB isn't expecting (or a legit TelemFFB bug...)

But at the very least you should add the aircraft to your config as a helicopter:

[500E.*]
type=Helicopter

[500E.*]
type=Helicopter

Boeing757sim•9/21/23, 5:32 PM

@walmis Could have the wiring diagram for the 32 input Shift register to “Main Board” - I used the diagram given by @subsonic1748 but no joy.

walmis•9/21/23, 5:34 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968208779084701716/1100261691394109440/image.png

I can't seem to update my firmware. The stick works, shows in Win10, etc, but I get this:

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