Hi I'm new here. Im trying to save for a F-16 setup and was wondering how much this cost?
Hi I'm new here. Im trying to save for a F-16 setup and was wondering how much this cost?
MIm very interested in it and believe it would be amazing to have
F#?faq
MSorry
JSo Meta Connect is in 13.5 hours, we'll likely see final details about Meta Quest 3 and release date.
Meanwhile Valve has been busy with SteamVR stuff and rolled out 2.0 beta very recently. Exciting stuff happening in VR that could help improve flight sim
Meanwhile Valve has been busy with SteamVR stuff and rolled out 2.0 beta very recently. Exciting stuff happening in VR that could help improve flight sim
BNot true , despite having hydraulic controls most (if not all?) hydraulicly powered aircraft will have an artificial feel unit installed (Q-Feel) to mimic aerodynamic forces increasing on the stick as the speed increases.
BIt's to prevent over stressing the airframe
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MNope. Most of them really don't adjust forces on the stick as the aircraft goes faster. Q-Feel is a name of the system installed in the Harrier that does that, but only in the elevator channel. Something similar is also installed in the F-4 elevator control system. But other aircraft, like F-14, F-15, F-18, A-10, F-86 etc. don't do that.
MThey only have a centering force (cam & springs), that usually moves with the trim.
MBobweights are common and they increase the force on the stick with G-loads. Personally I don't like this effect in the sim, as it can't be properly felt if you don't experience gforces yourself. Others like it, it can be tweaked in TelemFFB to your taste
MInterestingly, IL-2 also simulates bobweights in the Spitfire Mk V and Nieuport 17, which as I understand is true to real life.
BOh right, I misunderstood it then.
BIf specifically looking for an f16 it is the one aircraft this can't simulate better than anything else.
Since its using a force cm sending system with very little movement.
For that, specifically, I'd look into the realsimulator.com force sensing gimbal and grips.
But it's at least a 1k euro for the gimbal and grip.
Since its using a force cm sending system with very little movement.
For that, specifically, I'd look into the realsimulator.com force sensing gimbal and grips.
But it's at least a 1k euro for the gimbal and grip.
SHigh hopes for a new headset from valve
JWould be nice
Fwhat about the winwing f16 mfssb?
MOkay thank you. Im looking to get a VR headset and a good hotas so I might go for the Winwing Orion 2 or something
BWinwing also have a slightly less expensive force sensing base as well, but it handles it selves a little bit different than the realsim setup, granted almost half the price.
I own the winwing orion 2 and f16 throttle myself and find that great value for the viper.
I own the winwing orion 2 and f16 throttle myself and find that great value for the viper.
MIt's still not cheap haha
MMight be saving for awhile
EHi, I tried to check from FAQ but didn't have an answer. So my question is related to production amount/capacity. As we see from previous shipped Rhino the median waiting time is 218. With the current rate of Rhinos produced during little over month or so my estimated waiting time is little over one year. So the question is, are there any plans put in place to increase the production?
MIf I'm looking for budget should I do the X56 as is cheap and I'm going to use mainly VR?
BThis is not a general HOTAS discord, it is solely for the VPRhino and DIY projects around the kits etc.
Other discussion servers will likely help you better.
Other discussion servers will likely help you better.
MApologies
Fbetter ask in a discord that is dedicated to the game you are planning to play in VR. like DCS discord etc.
they usually can recommend stuff.
they usually can recommend stuff.
BYeah us right here tend to be further down the rabbit hole. To a point where we heard of 1000€ force feedback flightstick gimbal and we go "that's so cheap, take my money. Now I'll be sitting on my porch for 18 months before it arrives"..
Fhe could hire more people and charge $1500 euros, pick your poison. I'll take the $1K option.
LAh nice
LI got one on my mfg pedals and the same model on winwing collective. I want it to replicate as close to the hydrualic feel these give and my vkb with the rc dampers does so glad if the rhino seems to come close 
TYo, who's the fellow Norwegian Rhino owner?
BMust admit i was curious, still some 280 days left for me 
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TOoo, another Kiwi….Watch out for the tax man
EMy guess is that queue is already very long. I doubt that hiring someone would increase the price on its own. More users of the stick translates to more orders if/when the product is performing well. Less queue-time also leads to more orders. More orders translates to bigger purchases of components -> lower component prices.
MGuys I have two things. So I just got my rhino and I am now testing it out as you would. Let me say after using a cls-e brunner with a long extension and metal joystick, it really sucks. Bro compared to that the rhino takes some muscle to pull it out of trim or if under g load! And for prepar3d. I am convinced p3d ffb works better than dcs ffb. I had to tick an option and what effects I wanted in the sim and dude it is implemented better than dcs. I haven’t tried xplane. But yeah this thing is crazy man.
MAnd I have a certain aircraft where it’s also coded in the .cfg file so the effects are true-life
MAs this works, I am sure xplane will too.
MThanks so much @walmis
MT-38C talon flight simulator and T-6A Texan
NDoes P3D have native FFB support then?
MYes
MIt’s amazing. And if you are having troubles with it I have some code I can give you to plug into your aircraft.cfg file
MI have code from a commercial module
AThat would be me 
FCan you share it ?
MYou would have to send me the aircraft file in the simobjects folder. It’s really complicated in where it needs to go. What aircraft do you fly. I can post the code if you want but you will have no clue where to put it.
FI fly the feelthere ejets
MOkay. Go to your p3d file directory and go to the simobjects folder and copy the aircraft folder(s) you want ffb in. Send them to me somehow and I will see what I can do.
MThere’s a possibility there’s nothing I can do. It’s all up to the developer in the more advanced code I can’t edit. You will also have to enable ffb in p3d client settings
TWonder if Combat Flight Sim 3 (with a floriad of cool mods over the years) would have nice FFB too then (even if the engine is slightly older).