Theres bound to be someone out there with that skillset that will come along. to take the gif above

Theres bound to be someone out there with that skillset that will come along. to take the gif above and make it a boot logo id imagine should be real easy, I might tinker with that at some point.

Iiamchocho Theres bound to be someone out there with that skillset that will come along. t...

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 8:52 PM

I would be against making that the boot logo

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 8:52 PM

One, would be a bit complicated to expand it

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 8:52 PM

and two, it's AI generated

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 8:53 PM

and welp, you know, is fun to joke around with it, but it would suck that we had a nice artist make the logo for us to use AI to animate it

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 8:55 PM

we could use both, like using the gif's logos slowing getting introduced with colourful backgrounds, then the official logo at the end with a bit of zoom in on a black background with the bazzite title slowly appearing

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 8:58 PM

My friend says she charges 700 MXN (41 USD) per second, but she makes furry animations so maybe not

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 8:58 PM

She says she doesn't know how to do logo animations, but she'll give me a contact who does

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:04 PM

this is probably an after effect job

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:05 PM

or with davinci maybe?

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:05 PM

idk, its been years since the last time i edited properly a video

iamchochoOP•1/11/24, 9:28 PM

I guess does it matter if AI was used? sure if its blatant a copywrite ripoff but...

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:30 PM

Do I need to do anything about this security advisory?

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:30 PM

@Crush can you provide the images you used for the gif? might be easier making a video with them instead of breaking down the gif

Iiamchocho I guess does it matter if AI was used? sure if its blatant a copywrite ripoff b...

Noel•1/11/24, 9:34 PM

I wouldn't think so?

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:37 PM

I wouldn't feel comfortable using AI generated art, but well, is a community project so I'm just one vote

Sean (SuperRiderTH)•1/11/24, 9:37 PM

The general public hates anything AI generated being used with a passion, I would avoid using anything AI at all personally. It's a fun toy, but that is it.

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:38 PM

I love AI art. I feel like people railing against are the same people that would have complained about cars putting stableboys out of work.

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:38 PM

a 15 seconds animation can turn into a 300$ project, ai is the best way to make it cost effective

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:39 PM

Besides, what's the functional difference on training an AI on the styles of other artists vs a human doing it, apart from the AI being faster? That's where that argument kind of falls apart for me. If I personally practice drawing like other artists, and mix those styles to make something, it's somehow fine, but if I write a program to do it, it's suddenly the devil. I feel like most of the arguments against AI generated art are emotional, not logical or reasonable.

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:40 PM

Art will just become like luxury cars and hand crafted furniture. Low to mid range will be automated, high end will command high end prices and be a luxury. Can't put the genie back in the bottle, after all.

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:40 PM

@Kyle Gospo I have translated the new stuff and added the new secure boot section, however when I'm doing a PR to merge the changes, GitHub wants to PR other older commits that have been already been merged

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:41 PM

How can I make it so it ignores al previous commits and only sends the newest one?

KKamquat I love AI art. I feel like people railing against are the same people that would...

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:46 PM

Artists complains about AI because is taking the personal styles of thousands of artists without any retribution, stealing potential customers and ruining the livelyhood of thousands

KKamquat Besides, what's the functional difference on training an AI on the styles of oth...

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:47 PM

When you learn to draw, you develop your own drawing style, something that took hundreds if not thousands of hours to perfect, yeah, you can try and mimic the style of somebody else (rocko edits comes at the top of my head), but again, is somebody that spent a lot of time to perfect, specially if you ask for permission, and you do it as a tribute, that's okay

CCharlieBros Artists complains about AI because is taking the personal styles of thousands of...

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:48 PM

Sure, but 1) any human could do the same, and 2) this happens with every disruptive new technology. No one needs Ice vendors now that home refrigerators exist, either.

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:48 PM

What's not okay, is big corpos stealing the personal style of thousands of artists without them even knowing, nor giving permission

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:49 PM

I mean, if we take that argument and expand it, what even are we doing here, collaborating to this project? Just let copilot do all the programming, and an AI to translate everything

CCharlieBros Artists complains about AI because is taking the personal styles of thousands of...

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:49 PM

we are using the basic creative skills we have to make something, its not about stealing money from artists, we are the artists here, if we had to commission these kind of stuff not only will takes months, will probably costs a lot for a free opensource project

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:50 PM

That would take out the passion of everything we do, just because we are "slow and expensive"

CCharlieBros When you learn to draw, you develop your own drawing style, something that took ...

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:50 PM

That's still an emotional argument, and doesn't reflect the reality that this tech exists and isn't going to magically vanish. There's a reason SAG-AFTA had to agree to allow AI generated actors, voices, etc, in the latest agreements that ended the strike that industry was having. It's just plain not going to vanish. All this effort spent railing against it existing at all would be better spent figuring out how to transition things to the new reality that creative industries will have to live with.

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:50 PM

And that's a world I don't want to live in

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:50 PM

rei made the logo for bazzite, didnt get paid, they took a couple of hours to make it, its all a community effort

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:50 PM

I do art for a living. AI generation has sped up my workflow so much.

CCharlieBros @Kyle Gospo I have translated the new stuff and added the new secure boot sectio...

Kyle Gospo•1/11/24, 9:50 PM

I'll send you some instructions as soon as I can

AAlex&Indie rei made the logo for bazzite, didnt get paid, they took a couple of hours to ma...

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:51 PM

Correct! They decided that the logo was ugly, and needed a redesign, and so, they used their own time and expertise to design the branding we all agree is great

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:51 PM

@Kyle Gospo Do I need to be concerned about the big ol SecAdvisories: 1SecAdvisories: 1 in red in rpm-ostree status ?

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:51 PM

Is a passion project, using AI is not suitable for a passion and colaborative project

KKamquat That's still an emotional argument, and doesn't reflect the reality that this te...

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:53 PM

If we decide to just ignore the emotional arguments, we would become an empty husk, leaving aside humanity will only bring us to our doom

CCharlieBros Is a passion project, using AI is not suitable for a passion and colaborative pr...

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:53 PM

for an animation is justified, i dont think kyle or jorge want to pay 100+ for each image inside the gif and another 300+ for the animation, we are trying to make the job easier here

KKyle Gospo I'll send you some instructions as soon as I can

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:53 PM

I'll apreciate it

CCharlieBros If we decide to just ignore the emotional arguments, we would become an empty hu...

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:53 PM

I feel you're being hyperbolic, but I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here.

AAlex&Indie for an animation is justified, i dont think kyle or jorge want to pay 100+ for e...

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:54 PM

No, but we could wait for somebody with the right set of skills that wishes to contribute because of their own passion

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:54 PM

i dont think someone wants to make such huge thing for free

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:55 PM

i am waiting crush response and i will try to make one myself with the original images of the gif and the official logo

AAlex&Indie i dont think someone wants to make such huge thing for free

CharlieBros•1/11/24, 9:56 PM

Nobody in their right mind would like to spend hundreds of hours collaborating for free to make Bazzite a great OCI based OS... unless there's passion, interest, just saying

KKamquat @Kyle Gospo Do I need to be concerned about the big ol `SecAdvisories: 1` in red...

Kyle Gospo•1/11/24, 9:56 PM

They'll come and go, anything critical we'll handle

KKyle Gospo They'll come and go, anything critical we'll handle

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:56 PM

Okay, thanks for the info, I just got worried with the big red text

Kamquat•1/11/24, 9:56 PM

iamchochoOP•1/11/24, 9:58 PM

yea, and I think that would be great as well. coming up with the promps and tweaking things can also be a bit of an art IMO. all the AI hype has been BS in my opionion its just the new hot thing since crypto fell off the map. where I do find it interesting is use as a tool. Even in coding. saying that AI is going to code an entire application - anyone that says that is kidding themselves. but using "AI" to speed up the workflow of developers that is interesting to me. hell even the term I hate, its just ML rebranded. all the hype, fud and bs around it annoys me and frankly misses the whole point.

CCharlieBros Nobody in their right mind would like to spend hundreds of hours collaborating f...

Alex&Indie•1/11/24, 9:59 PM

dude, i understand what you mean, but its rare that a full ass artist will make it, leave it to us, ai is fine, its not hurting you, and the quality from a real artist is noticeable anyway, the gif images are fine, i wanna use those, they dont have to be 8k res, 3k ppi

Theres bound to be someone out there with that skillset that will come along. to take the gif above

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