Hello, while all aircraft I have are working well on the Rhino, only Ka-50(And Ka-50III) are not bei

Hello, while all aircraft I have are working well on the Rhino, only Ka-50(And Ka-50III) are not being able to work with TelemFFB. I found following entry in log, __ Exception in thread Thread-2:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "main.py", line 746, in process_data
File "aircrafts_dcs.py", line 592, in on_telemetry
File "aircraft_base.py", line 863, in _update_heli_engine_rumble
TypeError: float() argument must be a string or a real number, not 'NoneType'

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "traceback_with_variables\print.py", line 67, in printing_exc
File "traceback_with_variables\print.py", line 98, in wrapper
File "main.py", line 794, in run
File "main.py", line 750, in process_data
File "traceback_with_variables\print.py", line 39, in print_exc
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'write'

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "threading.py", line 1009, in _bootstrap_inner
File "traceback_with_variables\print.py", line 92, in wrapper
File "contextlib.py", line 153, in exit
File "traceback_with_variables\print.py", line 70, in printing_exc
File "traceback_with_variables\print.py", line 39, in print_exc
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'write'
any help will be appreciated,

RR7-Cedar Hello, while all aircraft I have are working well on the Rhino, only Ka-50(And K...

smitty•1/27/24, 3:38 PM

can you post your userconfig here? you can find it in the System meno, open config/log dir

R7-CedarOP•1/27/24, 3:45 PM

Hello Smitty, thanks for looking into this. I tried to see of I can delete and recreate setting but not sure if its doable, I cloned Ka50 to come up with Ka-50_3 so entry is in the XML file uploaded. However I don't see 'Ka-50' itself and that's been the case before I cloned Ka-50 for Ka-50_3.

userconfig.xml6.13KB

smitty•1/27/24, 3:47 PM

so it was crashing before cloning? theres a few settings in defaults

R7-CedarOP•1/27/24, 3:49 PM

Game stays running, the TelemFFB states Current Aircraft as Unknow (No much), upon starting Ka-50_3 flight.

R7-CedarOP•1/27/24, 3:55 PM

Other aircraft like Mi-24, Mi-8MT, UH-1, the TelemFFB is kicking in fine and effect starts as configured, If not, restarting the TelemFFB fixes and effect starts after it was restarted. Just Ka-50 is keep staying as Current Aircraft Unknown and Telemetry stays at '"Waiting for Data'.

R7-CedarOP•1/27/24, 3:57 PM

BTW, your setup is awesome, I got same gearboxes based off of your design. 3arcmin is no joke.

smitty•1/27/24, 3:57 PM

try this copy of userconfig. i shut off heli rumble.

userconfig.xml6.29KB

R7-CedarOP•1/27/24, 3:58 PM

Thanks! I'm trying now!

smitty•1/27/24, 4:02 PM

the line at 863 is frequency = float(rrpm) / 45 * blade_ctfrequency = float(rrpm) / 45 * blade_ct so for some reason it isnt getting rotor rpm (rrpmrrpm) I dont have dcs to test any further, maybe Number481 can figure out why

R7-CedarOP•1/27/24, 4:12 PM

It worked! Thank you!!

smitty•1/27/24, 4:12 PM

cool! dont click the X next to heli rumble!

R7-CedarOP•1/27/24, 4:13 PM

Ah, the default value is one creating the issue?

smitty•1/27/24, 4:13 PM

it defaults to ON because its type:Helicopter

R7-CedarOP•1/27/24, 4:15 PM

Got it, I'll keep in mind, Thank you again, I really appreciate!

smitty•1/27/24, 4:20 PM

youre welcome, do you have a build log of your rig on xsimulator.net?

smitty•1/27/24, 4:21 PM

or are you just using the 3arcmin's for joystick things

R7-CedarOP•1/27/24, 4:29 PM

No, Ive never shared anything there before. This is my first time buying such high precision gearboxes. I liked the 'All metal' idea.

RR7-Cedar Got it, I'll keep in mind, Thank you again, I really appreciate!

Number481•1/27/24, 4:32 PM

There's an issue with the pattern match for the Ka50 in the telemffb export script. Sorry, its the only heli I dont own so I never do any testing with it. I grabbed the trial and found the issue. I will push a update to the repository later. In the meantime you can use this export script. Just replace the one that is in your TelemFFB/export folder. When you restart TelemFFB it will install it into the DCS folders.

TelemFFB.lua55.22KB

R7-CedarOP•1/27/24, 4:35 PM

Oh, nice! I'll do it now, thank you for making all this, the sim is in a whole new level! .....the export script worked! I'm going bed for now, the joystick is good now, I'll have to start work on the rudder tomorrow! Thank you again!

Firaga•1/27/24, 4:47 PM

Tried to search for a solution for a F-16 problem but found only comments and confirmations about the existence of the problem. F-16 has quite bad FFB feeling in y-axis compared to any other module (some damping and very weak spring forces). Apparently it is due to DCS FFB output and not a Rhino issue as such. However, has anyone found good settings to fly F-16 with the Rhino or are there any other workarounds to make it more precise?

Sir_Diggins•1/27/24, 4:54 PM

Question for someone who knows more than me. So I’ve been messing with my rhino a bit and am loving it so far! I noticed that in dcs everything works smoothly, however in msfs with telemffb at least in the a2a piper, it likes to be smooth but then it “catches” in a direction on occasion and you need to pull it back to where you had it. It’s not a huge movement, but enough to feel a bit weird. Is this just because of the lack of native ffb, something configured wrong, or just a quirk of that aircraft? I haven’t tried doing much as I’m still getting an understanding of the software, but I figured I’d ask.

SSir_Diggins Question for someone who knows more than me. So I’ve been messing with my rhino ...

Number481•1/27/24, 11:48 PM

Might be the “lateral force” (uncoordinated turn) effect. You can try turning that off in the TelemFFB settings.

Sir_Diggins•1/28/24, 12:48 AM

Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll try it out when I get a chance!

Fer•1/28/24, 2:59 AM

@=RS= ddrake1984 my friend the washer worked excellent thanks for the advice.

Antares•1/28/24, 12:07 PM

I am having an issue in the DCS F-14 that I'm hoping someone can help me with. When flying from the pilot's seat the Rhino works beautifully, with excellent force feedback effect.
However, if I jump into the rear seat, the stick will slowly move almost all the way to the rearmost position. I use the Rhino as the RIO hand controller, but the same happens if I leave the Rhino unassigned for the RIO.
When I then return to the pilot's cockpit, the stick is then way out of position (almost all the way back), and trimmed to that position. I have to hold the stick forward with full force until I can trim it to a usable level (maybe 20 seconds of holding trim). Is there any way to prevent jumping to the RIO cockpit changing the trim?

AAntares I am having an issue in the DCS F-14 that I'm hoping someone can help me with. W...

walmis•1/28/24, 12:44 PM

Yeah, can confirm it's a bug with F-14. Once in RIO seat the trim center drifts to either extent

Antares•1/28/24, 12:45 PM

Is there anything I can do to prevent it?

walmis•1/28/24, 12:50 PM

Probably best to bug Heatblur about this

Antares•1/28/24, 12:54 PM

Appears its an old known issue https://forum.dcs.world/topic/329127-known-issue-trim-does-weird-things-on-the-ground-if-you-jump-into-the-back-seat/

ED Forums

[Known issue] Trim does weird things on the ground if you jump into...

When on the ground, if I move to the back seat, when I move back to the front seat the trim position will be completely changed. It looks like it alternates between 2-3 degrees nose down and about 22 degrees nose up. If I go to the back seat then immediately push "F2" to go to the external view I...

MichalK•1/28/24, 6:15 PM

Yes, already reported a few months ago. @Antares you can uncheck "Enable Trim Offset " in F-14 special options, but that will make the trim in the front cockpit a bit less realistic.

NNumber481 Might be the “lateral force” (uncoordinated turn) effect. You can try turning th...

Sir_Diggins•1/28/24, 7:29 PM

Hmm, I cant seem to find that setting in the config

SSir_Diggins Hmm, I cant seem to find that setting in the config

Number481•1/28/24, 7:31 PM

Sir_Diggins•1/28/24, 8:12 PM

Oh, well that must have been my problem, I was on the stable Telem and the wip has evolved to a far better place. Much better than digging through a txt file. Thanks for indirectly finding me the answer by getting me to update, lol. The problem seems to be gone in this version!

Number481•1/28/24, 8:14 PM

Sorry you had to experience pre-settings interface TelemFFB

Sir_Diggins•1/28/24, 8:14 PM

No kidding! Also, is the whole trim following thing that you mess with in stable just built in and working on its own in this version?

Number481•1/28/24, 8:17 PM

It works the same way, but the various physical and virtual gain settings are all slider bars. It’s all under the “axis control” setting (click the arrow when the setting is enabled to show all the sun settings)

Sir_Diggins•1/28/24, 8:20 PM

Ah, i see. And it looks like it auto sets it to the current aircrafts settings

Number481•1/28/24, 8:23 PM

Yes. The settings tab will always show the current loaded aircraft. You can edit any aircraft or the sim/aircraft class defaults from the settings menu in the menu bar

Sir_Diggins•1/28/24, 8:24 PM

Thats cool! seems fairly simple too use but with a hole lot of potential tweaking to dial things in.

Wiz•1/29/24, 7:00 AM

Hi all,

Received my Rhino today and have installed everything (VKB MCGU, 10cm extension), however I'm having an issue where the motors are timing out constantly in DCS. The effect is that the controls lock for a second every three to five seconds - i.e. unuseable currently. I've scoured the manual and tried some trouble shooting - reset everything etc etc. I think I'm a little stuck currently...

I've attached a screen shot of the debug screen, as well as the current settings. Really not sure what's going on here but I could really use some help! :/

WWiz Hi all, Received my Rhino today and have installed everything (VKB MCGU, 10cm e...

walmis•1/29/24, 7:31 AM

That's strange, could be power problems, I'll DM you

YunacPL•1/29/24, 7:40 AM

Today suddenly all grip buttons stopped working did anyone had similar issue ? Yesterday everything worked fine today I've noticed that grip buttons stopped working I've tried warthog and alpha none of them gives any input in debug shows me bunch of FF's
Rhino

YYunacPL Today suddenly all grip buttons stopped working did anyone had similar issue ? Y...

walmis•1/29/24, 8:32 AM

That's puzzling for sure. First I'd check the physical wiring. Maybe the grip side socket connector got loose?
Or maybe the solar flare that happened today got something to do with this

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Wwalmis That's puzzling for sure. First I'd check the physical wiring. Maybe the grip si...

YunacPL•1/29/24, 8:34 AM

I've just checked that all looks solid and connected , I've also used reset settings to factory which changed everything to some weird settings but still have no input from grip

Caprice•1/29/24, 9:23 AM

hello, quick question here, getting a warning about a trojan virus in the VPforce TelemFFB WIP... i don't think it actually has it, but has anyone else experienced?

CCaprice hello, quick question here, getting a warning about a trojan virus in the VPforc...

walmis•1/29/24, 9:26 AM

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Wwalmis https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/968208779084701716/1194368076104...

Caprice•1/29/24, 9:27 AM

thanks

Caprice•1/29/24, 9:58 AM

one smaller question, noticing that the Mi-8 in DCS is not holding the trimmer button, anyone experienced? Both the Mi-24 and KA-50 are working just fine. Also I have special setting FFB stick turned on.

Caprice•1/29/24, 10:03 AM

maybe this module doesnt support force feedback? would be sad for a helo

walmis•1/29/24, 10:08 AM

Check the trimmer mode in DCS module special settings, maybe that's the culprit

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