May have a muddle going on.....seem to have 2 folders called VPforce-TelemFFB-wip-dbdbb26f. They hav

May have a muddle going on.....seem to have 2 folders called VPforce-TelemFFB-wip-dbdbb26f. They have different contents and dates, see screenshots

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 10:59 AM

One, which is the newest does not have any config.user file....?

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 10:59 AM

Which one do I need?

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 11:39 AM

May I also ask ( been reading the manual...) in what circumstances would you use the endstops function & axis rescale and why? The manual expalins what they do, but not why and how you might use them. thanks

Mmark turner May I also ask ( been reading the manual...) in what circumstances would you us...

walmis•2/13/24, 11:43 AM

Axis scaling : for example to stiffen controls, to mimic F-16 force sensing somewhat.
Endstops: to (soft) limit travel, the same purpose as the hardware throw limiter, but less reliable.

Swoop•2/13/24, 11:45 AM

Hey all - sorry if this is a daft question. I'm nearly at the point where I need to buy a DIY kit and was wondering what the difference between all the options are. Any advice on which I should purchase?

Mmark turner May have a muddle going on.....seem to have 2 folders called VPforce-TelemFFB-wi...

Number481•2/13/24, 11:52 AM

the one in your downloads folder is the new file structure

Wwalmis Axis scaling : for example to stiffen controls, to mimic F-16 force sensing some...

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 2:52 PM

Great, I already have the throw reducer fitted, so basically, I dont need to worry about using either of those 2 options? thanks

NNumber481 the one in your downloads folder is the new file structure

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 2:53 PM

Thanks 481, do I need to copy over my user ini file to the downloads location? then delete the other?

Mmark turner Thanks 481, do I need to copy over my user ini file to the downloads location? t...

Number481•2/13/24, 3:02 PM

suggest just creating a "VPForce-TelemFFB" folder somewhere and moving the contents of the folder in your downloads directory to it. You can place your config.user.ini file in the directory with the new version. It will offer to import the settings into the new config structure (see 4.2.1.2 in the manual).

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 3:30 PM

OK, have done all that. I have 3 different vpconf files, for different modules (F14, F5 and F18) To enable automatic running of each when I use that module, I went to System/Edit Sim class defaults 7 offline models. I then in the 3rd column dropdown selected all the F14 variants there ( there are 3..?) and scrolled to the bottom to configurator file. I checked this box, then I highlighted the line and used the browse button to navigate to the location of the saved config files ( in my case in "configs" in my main VPforce configurator file location) . On selection, I was returned to the GUI, but there was no where I could see that link was made. Was that the correct procedure for linking a profile to a particular module? Assuming that is correct, I can then in the same GUI edit the Telem FFB effects for that module to differing values using the slider after highlighting each one....correct?

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 3:34 PM

Final query ( I hope!) Some of the configs I mentioned aboved were from a buddy. He has some quite different values in the "expert settings" section. I enclose a picture of mine, which I think ( was a while ago now) Walmis recommended. Could I ask that someone take a look at my values and tell me if they are correct? And if not what changes you would recommend and why. many thanks

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 3:47 PM

I ask as these are different from those in the default config as well as those of my buddy.

Mmark turner OK, have done all that. I have 3 different vpconf files, for different modules ...

Number481•2/13/24, 3:50 PM

In the defaults/class editor, after browsing for the file you need to hit the "update value" button, at which point you will see the value updated in the table...

The process is the same for editing any value via that interface.

Number481•2/13/24, 3:55 PM

you can also make changes while you are loaded in the aircraft via the settings tab in TelemFFB. However, you are limited to the active aircraft here

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 4:00 PM

Thanks, thats clear for using telemFFB effects. What about changing configs in the main VPforce config app for module specific ?I just ran DCS and used the F14, but it did not change the profile being used by vP force config from the default one I had loaded. I used the process as described above.....

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 4:01 PM

if you have 5 minutes, it may be quicker and easier if we jumped in the voice channel?

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 4:01 PM

save all the pesky typing...!

Mmark turner Thanks, thats clear for using telemFFB effects. What about changing configs in t...

Number481•2/13/24, 4:07 PM

tied up for another hour or so but can after that

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 4:17 PM

great, thanks will ping you in an hour

AAnthony The WinWing adapter, can that be used **on Virpil’s extensions?** I’m consideri...

Anthony•2/13/24, 5:06 PM

@walmis any idea on how that’d work out?

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 5:09 PM

Just to be 100% clear here as well, I am talking about automatically changing config files to match the aircraft you are flying in VPForce config, NOT the per module settings for the TelemFFB effects.

Mmark turner Just to be 100% clear here as well, I am talking about automatically changing co...

Number481•2/13/24, 5:10 PM

works the same way... free now if you want to jump in voice channel

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 5:10 PM

cool, gimme 2 minutes willl be there

Mmark turner cool, gimme 2 minutes willl be there

Number481•2/13/24, 5:15 PM

I've tried 3 different mics on 2 different devices.. issue must be in between or on your side

AAnthony @walmis any idea on how that’d work out?

walmis•2/13/24, 5:54 PM

It would work technically, but I'm not sure about the mechanical connection. If the Z extension has a free cable i.e. not a rigid connector then it would be not a problem, otherwise it would be easy to break the WW adapter. In other words if you could mount a TM grip on the Z extension it should be good to go.

mark turnerOP•2/13/24, 6:06 PM

I use a Rhino with virpil Z extension and a hobby built grip with a thrustmaster type mount, it all works fine.

Aileron_Hubbard•2/13/24, 7:50 PM

For those of you with a winwing grip on your rhino and still using simapp pro will you please DM me and tell me how you got it to work please?

FlatSpin•2/13/24, 8:55 PM

to my knowlede simapp pro does not work with the rhino winwing grip adapter. That communication relies on the "orion" base to work.

scheppie_•2/13/24, 11:05 PM

is it normal that if i import default config my rhino is out of center for like 3 degrees to the right? and if i put endstops afther default apply the endstops are more to the right

FFlatSpin to my knowlede simapp pro does not work with the rhino winwing grip adapter. Th...

Aileron_Hubbard•2/13/24, 11:13 PM

Ah I see, thank you.

scheppie_•2/13/24, 11:43 PM

i dont know for sure but with those settings my vpforce is going bbbbrrrrrtttt en motor shuting down, those are profile settings for heli that i got from profile sharing, am i doing somthing wrong? or is my vpforce....

TrigaNZ•2/13/24, 11:44 PM

Try ditching Friction and Inertia for a start.

Sscheppie_i dont know for sure but with those settings my vpforce is going bbbbrrrrrtttt e...

walmis•2/14/24, 5:36 AM

Try damper and spring LPF settings 2Hz and 4Hz respectively

Sscheppie_i dont know for sure but with those settings my vpforce is going bbbbrrrrrtttt e...

PiNKSH!T•2/14/24, 6:33 AM

I think you need to turn down the Friction & intertia LPF Hz. NVM

why didn't I see the two answers above me? lol

scheppie_•2/14/24, 7:52 AM

So Is it like a lotto ticket for stable motors? Because this are settings from profile share... I really love the vpforce, it's a beast

but i try to understand why i can not use 3 out of 5 profile share settings

Sscheppie_So Is it like a lotto ticket for stable motors? Because this are settings from p...

PiNKSH!T•2/14/24, 8:09 AM

I wonder that about the different settings some ppl have compared to others too. It also seems to me that my x axis motor will be the one to shudder & cut out more than the y axis when I experiment with setting changes.

mark turnerOP•2/14/24, 10:10 AM

How do you edit and save values in an existing vpconf file? I have edited some values in some of mine and they appear to get saved to devices memory when you press store and apply, rather than the actual vpconf file. So when I fly the module again, it automatically loads the previous unedited version. Thanks

walmis•2/14/24, 10:11 AM

You need to export the settings into a file again

mark turnerOP•2/14/24, 10:19 AM

SR-F Wofei•2/14/24, 1:22 PM

hi, i got my rhino diy build. the axis are shown, but the grip will not work. I tried Thrustmater Warthog Grip and a Virpil grip. I measured the pins from Connector to connector, all cables are Ok.

walmis•2/14/24, 1:26 PM

Are you 100% sure the pinout is correct?

SR-F Wofei•2/14/24, 1:50 PM

yeah, i found the failure the wrong stick was configured. sorry

PPiNKSH!T I wonder that about the different settings some ppl have compared to others too....

Fierce_Fire•2/14/24, 6:41 PM

I assume grip matters a lot, mine is like 2x as heavy as its plastic variant

buzzbomb•2/14/24, 7:52 PM

i submitted a pre-order from on the 11th of feb. when i run the info command with my email address i get "The application did not respond" Is the app down or is my pre-order not in the system yet?

Wwalmis I know a few RS users that successfully use their grips, so this instance is kin...

Brizzly•2/15/24, 2:19 AM

Can you confirm which grip type I should select?

Caprice•2/15/24, 2:43 AM

Hello, very much enjoying my Rhino. Have noticed some clicking when pushing against it even with fairly gentle pressure. I can record a video to document this if needed. It seems mechanical.

CCaprice Hello, very much enjoying my Rhino. Have noticed some clicking when pushing agai...

Asdforce•2/15/24, 3:24 AM

I had some clicks/clunks when moving against spring forces. Also a slight nudge could be felt on the stick. Eneded up being the bolts on the big pulleys. I tightened each by 1/8 turn and it's better now.

AAsdforce I had some clicks/clunks when moving against spring forces. Also a slight nudge ...

Caprice•2/15/24, 3:37 AM

thank you, are those the ones that hold in the belts on the outside?

Asdforce•2/15/24, 3:40 AM

You're welcome. Yep, five bolts on each pulley. Hopefully it's that simple and not something else.

luap14.•2/15/24, 9:35 AM

Hello has anyone a good recomendation for whear to metall 3d printing the Joystick mount

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