All thanks for suggestions and sorry for the wall of text!(will try number points in the future!) 😅
All thanks for suggestions and sorry for the wall of text!(will try number points in the future!) 
-so to address some of the points 1)so can check the trim settings in DCs (assume I should make them match the screenshot for the rhino column?)2)in terms of testing without Telem I can try (assume the force trim function should function with telem off- restring the position of the stick?)3)correct using the f18 metal stick with a Z extension - what would u suggest for the balance spring settings?4)will post some setting pics shortly?5) note your points on resetting FFB (found I did not need to restart DCs after resetting - only issue was the force trim not working - but restart if I do in the future) 6)assuming from the comments the id5 spring setting appearing set to 9% then after a reset appearing as a sine also at 9% could be a red herring?
-so to address some of the points 1)so can check the trim settings in DCs (assume I should make them match the screenshot for the rhino column?)2)in terms of testing without Telem I can try (assume the force trim function should function with telem off- restring the position of the stick?)3)correct using the f18 metal stick with a Z extension - what would u suggest for the balance spring settings?4)will post some setting pics shortly?5) note your points on resetting FFB (found I did not need to restart DCs after resetting - only issue was the force trim not working - but restart if I do in the future) 6)assuming from the comments the id5 spring setting appearing set to 9% then after a reset appearing as a sine also at 9% could be a red herring?
