WI figured it out after some trial and error. The USB ID is somehow stuck on 2050 even though the default in hardware is 2055. Once I was able to plug to another computer and change the joystick USB device ID to 2050, I was able to connect to the machine in question above. I am not sure why the software is stuck to 2050 on that PC. @walmis
ROn an unrelated note, It warms my heart that after a decade people are still using this. I created this diagram when I first started modding and here we are, building a FFB stick. 
BThink it has less to do with us, than that thrustmaster haven't changed it 
J@walmis I see the same symptoms with my Virpil Blackhawk Grip. Has this been solved? Thanks!
Pfrom what I have seen, firstly of course VPforce Rhino is the best as far as software, support & community etc. but if you are going diy with non vpforce motors then I would suggest FFbeast not laserwing, can't say about current laserwing but from what I saw of it last & what I have recently seen of FFBeast I would suggest it over laserwing, it seems to have decent software & support growing. Though a vpforce motor/electronics kit would be my top suggestion.
SHero! Thanks for this!
BDoes the kit comes with all the hardware to build the base, or is it just the motors and the board.
FIts just the motors, board and usb connector. You'll need a way to connect the motors to the stick (the gimbal) and some way to attach them to your rig (base). There are DIY kits people have designed where you need a 3d printer and to purchase the listed parts, if you use the discord search function you'll be able to find a few.
VWho would I talk to check on my order? I just happened to check the status of my build now but the invoice says cancelled. 
VI’m #0497
VI got an email this morning as well I guess saying my order was cancelled.
FMessage walmis he seems to be understanding of those situations
VSounds good. Thanks man!
FDid you recieve any prior emails before that?
WYeah the invoice has expired, was sent on March 28
VJust an email saying invoice sent but I never received it
VAhhhhhh. How do I go about getting another?
WI'll resend it
VThank you! I was worried! 
VGot it! Paying now! Thank you
N@walmis the bottom nut on my winwing adapter has cracked is there a stl so i can print a new one
SMy apologies if this is the wrong section for this. I’m trying to build a g-seat and the vpforce telem seems like an ideal place to get telemetry across sim platforms. Is there a feasible way for me to export data from VPforceTelem to a usb COM port?
TI’m sure there’s a way to “pass it on” from Telem but that would likely only add latency. The more ideal way would be to pull it directly from the sim in parallel with Telem, instead of getting it from/through Telem. Probably not what you wanted to hear but it would likely be better to do it independently, unless you had Telem directly driving your extra transducers or motors.
SHmm got it. What level of latency are we talking? One potential Avenue could be to make the seat an FFB device and give it the G-effect. (That seems a bit round-about tho.) I’m most of the way to what I need for DCS, getting data out of MSFS and especially IL2 will be trickier
TI don’t have a feeling for what latency it would add but a direct “pull “ would be better. Think of it as a separate thread.
TEventually, I want to add a 2-3 and ultimately a 6DOF motion platform. While the telemetry from the sim (no matter which sim it is) is being queried (or published to) TelemFFB, the outputs are different. I imagine that one could incorporate motion platform outputs into TelemFFB, it’s really designed for controls, rather than motion. That’s my geek understanding of it and it might be incomplete. Having said that, there could exist a super-program that does everything. I just don’t know that such things exist yet.
TBTW, your stick configuration on another thread looks quite impressive, I must say! 
NRather than trying to piggyback on top of TelemFFB, or shoe-horn some additional export functionality into a fork (and then having to try to keep it updated in synch with the main branch)... you'd likely be better off just borrowing the DCS export script and modifying it to suit your telemetry needs.
What TelemFFB does with simconnect is likely way overly complex for what you would want for a G-Seat. I'd recommend just looking at some of the pysimconnect examples on how to get the basic G/Vector telemetry you would want/need.
Similarly with IL2, most of the complexity there is in the decoding of the telemetry stream, which again, you could lift that decode module from TelemFFB.
What TelemFFB does with simconnect is likely way overly complex for what you would want for a G-Seat. I'd recommend just looking at some of the pysimconnect examples on how to get the basic G/Vector telemetry you would want/need.
Similarly with IL2, most of the complexity there is in the decoding of the telemetry stream, which again, you could lift that decode module from TelemFFB.
SGot it! I’ll do more poking into the telem ffb guts. Im firmware savvy, but this stuff will be a bit more of a challenge for me.
Nfeel free to post in https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1123294843079237716 if you have questions about how stuff works
SThank you! I’ve got a lot know mechanical work to do on the seat for the meantime. I’ve got a better sense of my game plan software wise
KHello @walmis I have problem with my DYI Rhino. Yesterday it shutoff when I was dogfighting in DCS. I got this in view in my VpConfigurator, both motors "offline". I pressed reset numerus times, reset pc, removed power but nothing changes. One motors screws were hot so I thought, maybe it need to cool down. But after 7h it's still the same. Resetting profile or motors is not doing anything. What can I do?
WHi, can you measure your power supply?
KI can give it a shoot, how exactly should I do that?
KI have the same PSU as in stock Rhino, Green Cell PRO 19V 9.5A 180W
WYou'd need to measure if 20V is coming to the FFB board with a multimeter
WAlso if there's no LED indication under the motor covers it is most likely power issues
KI can see green led light inside
WI suspect what youre seeing is most likely from the FFB board
WYou'd need to open it up to check
KOk, understood
YDoes vpc mongoose "cm1" supported by rhino?
Y
KOk, issue fixed. It was broken DC socket not giving + to the emergency button and the ffb board. It must fried itself yesterday. Thanks Walmis and @SR-FWinger[73]_David for all the help and support tracking that issue 
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Syoure very welcome. now good flying again:)
Sall VPC grips are supported.
Also all TM grips.
VKB with adapter and also Winwing with adapter
Also all TM grips.
VKB with adapter and also Winwing with adapter
Sat least i got this info. please correct me if i am wrong;)
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Yyep i have 2 alphas and 2 TM grips just wondered if the older VPC stick will work due its not listed
Sahh i get it. Walmis will have the answer. Wild guess: it whould work..