That's why I was asking if it works without a stick connected... physically it's connected but I don

That's why I was asking if it works without a stick connected... physically it's connected but I don't think it receives direct inputs from the stick

corbu1•4/30/24, 4:05 PM

Others might know…I‘d guess you need two usb connections then. One for rhino and one for the stick?

Ccorbu1 Others might know…I‘d guess you need two usb connections then. One for rhino and...

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 4:08 PM

Yea

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 4:15 PM

they have also given availability for customized extensions, they are open to any request

corbu1•4/30/24, 4:28 PM

Then it might work. Probably is @walmis best to know

Ccorbu1 Then it might work. Probably is @walmis best to know

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 4:38 PM

Good idea, I don’t know if I can post the link here, I’ll wait

Chuff•4/30/24, 5:39 PM

I'm pretty sure the rhino gets its trim location in the telemetry from the sim, so force trim should work just fine. It works just find in the vkb sticks I believe, and those are running through a vkb black box rather than the rhino

Fierce_Fire•4/30/24, 5:48 PM

There should be a program to get stick inputs into the rhino base

Fierce_Fire•4/30/24, 5:49 PM

It's used mostly for vkb sticks but it should work for others as well

PPiola Good idea, I don’t know if I can post the link here, I’ll wait

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/30/24, 5:55 PM

links are allowed in this server if your concern was about server rules

I'm intrigued by the word of another company offering cyclics that might be able to work with the Rhino some way or another. Especially with the CH-47F release a month away.

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/30/24, 5:56 PM

I'm assuming it isn't Komodo Simulations, correct?

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/30/24, 5:57 PM

Since you mentioned metal grips

JJon (Bounty_V)links are allowed in this server if your concern was about server rules I'm in...

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 6:04 PM

Its this one https://www.maxflightstick.com

MaxFlightStick Flight Simulator Control Systems

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Jon (Bounty_V)•4/30/24, 6:05 PM

Aha, cheers

Fr4Ged•4/30/24, 6:09 PM

"affordable"

Jon (Bounty_V)•4/30/24, 6:10 PM

There are very few cyclic grip makers on the market - even Virpil doesn't seem keen to make some (yet? hopefully?)

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 6:11 PM

Look at the YouTube channel, a lot of nice shorts

PPiola That's why I was asking if it works without a stick connected... physically it's...

walmis•4/30/24, 7:04 PM

If you need hardware trim functionality you can "loopback" the grip buttons back to the Rhino using the loopback utility included with the configurator. It allows to use any attached game device to send buttons back to the Rhino and emulate a directly connected grip to the Rhino.

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 7:08 PM

so if a stick can interface with the PC and therefore communicate with the program to use Loopback it can work with the Rhino

walmis•4/30/24, 7:09 PM

Yep

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 7:09 PM

and I'll just have to create an adapter to connect the cyclic to the Rhino right?

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 7:10 PM

then it is also possible to use their Grips...

walmis•4/30/24, 7:10 PM

Yeah, the Rhino has M36x2 threads, that thrustmaster and Virpil uses

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 7:11 PM

Excellent

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 7:11 PM

The Rhino with his software has no limits

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 7:12 PM

Thank you Walmis, now I just have to wait for your invoice

Oneill•4/30/24, 8:54 PM

2 weeks to wait for mine to come over from France, can’t wait

PiolaOP•4/30/24, 9:04 PM

2 weeks are nothing

mark turner•5/1/24, 5:45 AM

Hi, shouting out to any users on here who have the Rhino and also the Harrier module…… I have not flown it for a while and have noticed that now, when in use, the feel of the stick is very different. I had differing profiles loading for each jet via Telem FFB, so that was expected, however, the Harrier profile was essentially the same as my F18 profile. I have checked and indeed, all settings are the same, in both VP conf and Telem…….however, they feel completely different….In the Harrier the stick feels very stiff and will almost stay where it moves, like is extremely damped and with lots of friction. Also, the trim does not appear to move the stick like it used to…..How can this be, when all settings are the same? I am really puzzled. I was hoping other FFB Harrier users could comment and maybe share their profiles. I can post pictures of both profiles to show the settings. I can only surmise that the FFB effects coming from the Harrier in game are producing the effect, however, I never noticed this before, this is comparatively recent……

Mmark turner Hi, shouting out to any users on here who have the Rhino and also the Harrier mo...

walmis•5/1/24, 5:57 AM

Maybe you have friction effect enabled in the configurator ?

mark turner•5/1/24, 7:43 AM

Hi, that was it Walmis....although the settings were teh same, I did not notice one had it ticked and teh other did not......D'oh! Thank you.....I do still have the issue of the trim not moving the stick...? I do have trim workaround for the Harrier enabled in Telem.....

WWill3D Yeah, I ended up paying about $20ea for the rod ends I'm using. They seem to be ...

maxonly•5/1/24, 9:19 AM

could you share the part number of the rod ends you ended up using?

PeteNZ Heli•5/1/24, 10:37 AM

My Reservation Status says Notified. Should I have received an email or message?

PPeteNZ Heli My Reservation Status says Notified. Should I have received an email or message...

walmis•5/1/24, 11:21 AM

You should receive an email/DM promptly, thanks

Daz_bike•5/1/24, 12:13 PM

When is the MFG FFB kit expected to start shipping?

Stryker990•5/1/24, 2:49 PM

i know it wasnt that long since but firmware update with F-16EX virtual buttons when?

Sup3rToc0!•5/1/24, 7:55 PM

I listed this in suggestions but it’s more fitting In general:

So should I use the VKB extension stick with the Vpf base or would that be really long? Correct me if I’m wrong but I’d feel more force with a shorter stick right?

Mmaxonly could you share the part number of the rod ends you ended up using?

Will3D•5/1/24, 8:20 PM

Sorry, I coudln't find the exact ones now. They came from the UK, and I think were using in racing gocarts. If that helps.

SSup3rToc0!I listed this in suggestions but it’s more fitting In general: So should I use ...

Jon (Bounty_V)•5/1/24, 8:30 PM

You would feel more with a shorter stick yes because physics, or more specifically it would be 'harder to move the stick' at same nm set compared to a longer extension

but it is still all down to preference. Similarly you would feel more strength with a lighter grip (i.e. mcg pro vs mcg ultimate)

Jon (Bounty_V)•5/1/24, 8:31 PM

so for example on a 200mm extension while the mcg u works perfectly fine it'll feel a little different from using the mcg pro

Mmaxonly could you share the part number of the rod ends you ended up using?

mechsicko•5/1/24, 10:20 PM

I got tired of rodends which are either cheap and sloppy or expensive and less sloppy and make my own pushrods now.. 1 end is a regular ball eating the other is a self-aligning type. My initial units are made from 2 stainless laser cut pieces that are soldered together but will switch to cast ones in the future. They look like this (missing the self aligning bearing):

Spelljammer1•5/2/24, 12:06 AM

Lovely Force Feedback Settings tab in Star Wars Episode 1 Racer.

Spelljammer1•5/2/24, 12:07 AM

I'm wondering if someone managed to get this working with the Rhino. Currently in Win11 the joystick menu in game does not recognize any joysticks.

Duchess ✈•5/2/24, 2:07 AM

Can someone explain or point me in the right direction for dealing with the trim in the Apache? I am just not understanding it at all.

Ice•5/2/24, 2:08 AM

At what temp does the Rhino's fan come on and at what temp does it begin to reduce force?

DDuchess ✈Can someone explain or point me in the right direction for dealing with the trim...

Ice•5/2/24, 2:09 AM

Is the Apache your first helicopter?

IIce Is the Apache your first helicopter?

Duchess ✈•5/2/24, 2:10 AM

No, I used to be able to fly it quite well with the Virpil, but I must have something set wrong with the Rhino.

Ice•5/2/24, 2:11 AM

Dumb questions first: Do you have force feedback enabled in DCS general settings and the Apache's trimmer mode set to Instant Trim (FFB FRIENDLY) in the special settings?

IIce Dumb questions first: Do you have force feedback enabled in DCS general settings...

Duchess ✈•5/2/24, 2:15 AM

Yes, just to make sure I went back and checked.

Ice•5/2/24, 2:15 AM

I fly the Apache a lot, I'm not an expert by any means, but if you describe what you're struggling with, I may be able to help.

Fierce_Fire•5/2/24, 2:15 AM

Do you have trim bound in dcs apache?

That's why I was asking if it works without a stick connected... physically it's connected but I don

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