Hehe But yea.. I'm happy with the bazzite defaults, just wanted to know. And how you edit the shell

Hehe
But yea.. I'm happy with the bazzite defaults, just wanted to know.
And how you edit the shell theme, I tried different themes and no other theme does the spacing like bazzite...

KKid ...

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:15 AM

Lol, nice fork bomb you got there /s

Pez•6/1/24, 8:15 AM

i was having a nice long discussion with a few people today about how btrfs might be more of a footgun than anything else when it comes to steam storage

KKid Hehe But yea.. I'm happy with the bazzite defaults, just wanted to know. And how...

Hunanbean•6/1/24, 8:15 AM

I honestly do not know on Gnome, but maybe searching for System Tray Icon Spacing would help? IDK if they named it differently in Gnome

PPez i was having a nice long discussion with a few people today about how btrfs migh...

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:15 AM

I like more storage in my case.

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:16 AM

But it depends on how much steam games you have vs everything else TBH.

Pez•6/1/24, 8:16 AM

totally fair. it just doesn't play nice with steam on cacheless drives.

Pez•6/1/24, 8:16 AM

that includes sd cards

PPez totally fair. it just doesn't play nice with steam on cacheless drives.

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:16 AM

It's disabled on steam storage folders

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:16 AM

So it should not matter at all.

RRodoMa92 It's disabled on steam storage folders

Pez•6/1/24, 8:16 AM

what is

PPez what is

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:17 AM

Deduplication and such, so it's almost as close as no btrfs at all.

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:17 AM

The whole COW is off IIRC.

Pez•6/1/24, 8:17 AM

that doesn't solve the issues i'm talking about

KidOP•6/1/24, 8:17 AM

you can check it with lsattrlsattr

Pez•6/1/24, 8:18 AM

the way steam downloads it will bring the entire drive to contention without a write cache of some sort

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:18 AM

What did you mean then?

Pez•6/1/24, 8:18 AM

if the drive is cacheless this means your downloads slow to a crawl

PPez the way steam downloads it will bring the entire drive to contention without a w...

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:18 AM

Oooh, yeah, I agree.

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:18 AM

I can reproduce that then.

Pez•6/1/24, 8:18 AM

it's still a CoW filesystem at the end of the day

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:18 AM

Never bothered me too much tho.

Pez•6/1/24, 8:19 AM

the solution is to simply use ext4 for your games storage if you don't want your installs to take twice as long

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:19 AM

SDCards are still slow as crap XD

Pez•6/1/24, 8:19 AM

i had two people try it, one had their problem solved completely just with metadata journaling

Pez•6/1/24, 8:19 AM

another guy didn't, i suspect it might need full journaling on his drive

Pez•6/1/24, 8:19 AM

it was really bad

Pez•6/1/24, 8:20 AM

don't see what this has to do with libvirt lmfao

Pez•6/1/24, 8:20 AM

you would use writeback and raw format on a VM

Pez•6/1/24, 8:20 AM

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:21 AM

---------------C------ /run/media/marco/SamSD512/steamapps/downloading
---------------C------ /run/media/marco/SamSD512/steamapps/temp

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:21 AM

Yep, it's off.

Pez•6/1/24, 8:23 AM

it doesn't literally stop the filesystem from being copy-on-write anyway

Pez•6/1/24, 8:23 AM

it just prevents deduplication using those factors

PPez it doesn't literally stop the filesystem from being copy-on-write anyway

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:23 AM

It reduces the impact at least.

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:23 AM

I never been a fan of btrfs TBC

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:24 AM

Lost data twice on it XD

Pez•6/1/24, 8:24 AM

yeah it is still fundamentally an issue with the FS and certain forms of storage

Pez•6/1/24, 8:24 AM

depending on how shit your drive is you are making a big tradeoff by not using a journaled fs

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:24 AM

But it's the best CoW FS we have that works decently.

Pez•6/1/24, 8:25 AM

yeah unless you completely defer cow to the hv and use basically raw block storage in a VM it's kinda shit

KidOP•6/1/24, 8:25 AM

(open)ZFS, APFS, BtrFS

KKid (open)ZFS, APFS, BtrFS 🗿

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:25 AM

APFS? XD

Pez•6/1/24, 8:25 AM

lmfao

KidOP•6/1/24, 8:25 AM

bache...

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:25 AM

I love ZFS, but too much issues being OOT.

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:25 AM

If you have a recent kernel.

KKid bache...

RodoMa92•6/1/24, 8:26 AM

Bcache I'm testing it now on my desktop BTW XD

RRodoMa92 APFS? XD

KidOP•6/1/24, 8:26 AM

Apple File System

Pez•6/1/24, 8:26 AM

anyway if you notice steam DoSing your SSD while downloading larger games and it annoys you, it's BTRFS problem

Pez•6/1/24, 8:26 AM

thanks for coming to my TED talk

Hehe But yea.. I'm happy with the bazzite defaults, just wanted to know. And how you edit the shell

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