Prism? potentially chance of being nearly as good as Rosetta
Prism? potentially chance of being nearly as good as Rosetta
KThe steam deck outperforms a $2,000 MacBook in CS2
KBeing as good as Rosetta is not a win
Ca $2000 MacBook is not made to game
AI should also note
ARosetta only works as well as it does becuase it's just a stopgap
Cyou can design a decent ARM chip with good power for gaming
Athe BIG thing apple does
Ato make the transition work
KIt's also cheating in hardware to accomplish that
Ais Universal Binary, aka Fat Binary
KWhich I admit is a very cool solution
Awhich is when they just
CI have faith in Prism to be something similar
Acompile both x86 and arm64 code and slap it in one file
Aso it's native code
CBox64 will never get good performance for anything game related though
Arosetta is just there to act as a stop gap while things pull themselves together to get universal binary support and all that
VLike what? I'd say whatever the latest snapdragon flagship is was made for gaming and I guarantee that also does not outperform a £350 steam deck.
Aonce they do that, the need for Rosetta goes away
AI mean they literally did this already with the PPC to Intel migration
Aexactly the same way
ARosetta 1 and fat binaries with Universal Binary
KYeah, zero faith that Apple keeps that around a microsecond longer than they need for their own purposes
KI can see why valve dropped caring for Apple products
CAMD and Snapdragon partner together to make a killer ARM chip in the future
CAnd these handhelds run either Prism and WoA or some Valve equivalent
ARosetta only exists as a temporary stopgap until software devs start building Fat Binaries that support both platforms and then when the old platform is discontinued they just kill both Rosetta and Universal Binary
Cwe will then have insane battery life
Hwasnt "apple engineers being impossible to actually contact on any issues" a bigger issue (at least from what i remember)
AAlso Rosetta 2 technically uses some silicon level cheats that are designed into the chip to help with performance
VAnd still less performance than if it was x86
Cslightly, but the translation costs will improve
Ax86 is always going to have a place in this world
Cinitially it will be shit
Aespecially with the sheer amount of software in its catalog
KYeah, also things like refusing to support Vulkan
VRosetta 2's translation is literally using the parts of x86 that are hardest to emulate to speed it up and it still sucks.
AOh yeah btw Apple has done the Fat Binary thing THREE TIMES BTW
CValve would need to sponsor or financially buy out the Box64 guys if you want any progress in the Linux world on this
KMeaning every Mac needs yet another compatibility layer because nobody is going to code for metal
A68K to PPC, PPC to Intel and Intel to ARM
Cbecause that project is embarrassing right now to say the least
KThey are already sponsoring FEX
VPlaytron already did that.
Myou dont understand hideo kojima will keep making metal games
Clast time I saw it could barely run Skyrim
Hyeah that one was straight up hostile, metal has no reason to exist other than to make it harder to get into/out of the ecosystem
KThat's already true with xcode
Hi really doubt apple didnt know about vulkan being in the works considering they're 1 year of age apart
Ayeah because converting x86 code to arm code on the fly for both CPU and GPU is FUCKING HARD
