once they do that, the need for Rosetta goes away
once they do that, the need for Rosetta goes away
AI mean they literally did this already with the PPC to Intel migration
Aexactly the same way
ARosetta 1 and fat binaries with Universal Binary
KYeah, zero faith that Apple keeps that around a microsecond longer than they need for their own purposes
KI can see why valve dropped caring for Apple products
CAMD and Snapdragon partner together to make a killer ARM chip in the future
CAnd these handhelds run either Prism and WoA or some Valve equivalent
ARosetta only exists as a temporary stopgap until software devs start building Fat Binaries that support both platforms and then when the old platform is discontinued they just kill both Rosetta and Universal Binary
Cwe will then have insane battery life
Hwasnt "apple engineers being impossible to actually contact on any issues" a bigger issue (at least from what i remember)
AAlso Rosetta 2 technically uses some silicon level cheats that are designed into the chip to help with performance
VAnd still less performance than if it was x86
Cslightly, but the translation costs will improve
Ax86 is always going to have a place in this world
Cinitially it will be shit
Aespecially with the sheer amount of software in its catalog
KYeah, also things like refusing to support Vulkan
VRosetta 2's translation is literally using the parts of x86 that are hardest to emulate to speed it up and it still sucks.
AOh yeah btw Apple has done the Fat Binary thing THREE TIMES BTW
CValve would need to sponsor or financially buy out the Box64 guys if you want any progress in the Linux world on this
KMeaning every Mac needs yet another compatibility layer because nobody is going to code for metal
A68K to PPC, PPC to Intel and Intel to ARM
Cbecause that project is embarrassing right now to say the least
KThey are already sponsoring FEX
VPlaytron already did that.
Myou dont understand hideo kojima will keep making metal games
Clast time I saw it could barely run Skyrim
Hyeah that one was straight up hostile, metal has no reason to exist other than to make it harder to get into/out of the ecosystem
KThat's already true with xcode
Hi really doubt apple didnt know about vulkan being in the works considering they're 1 year of age apart
Ayeah because converting x86 code to arm code on the fly for both CPU and GPU is FUCKING HARD
Cthis is not really different than Microsoft pushing their own standard (I know they support Vulkan so it's not the entire same thing)
KThe entire ecosystem is anti-developer as far as I'm concerned
Cthe difference is DirectX is actually good unlike Metal
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Hwindows supports vulkan just fine ??
KLook, one more like this and I'm going to ban you. It's borderline misinformation. Window supports Vulkan
KMicrosoft has done nothing like metal
CI didn't say it like they don't support it
CI meant trying to push their own thing
VPushing your own thing and making it the only thing are very different
AVulkan runs on basically everything at this point
Hthey're not? like
they've used dx since god knows how long
they've used dx since god knows how long
Aexcept I think macOS but correct me if I'm wrong
Hopengl/vulkan has always coexisted with it with no issues
KIt only works on Mac OS via a compatibility layer that converts it to metal
KAnd is missing numerous features
CVulkan is not the default on Windows although it is supported
KIt's also the only operating system like that
Aoh so it's just really bad dxvk
