@walmis I encountered the following issue with VP control software. To increase the centering precis

@walmis I encountered the following issue with VP control software. To increase the centering precision I steepend the spring force curve around the middle position. which worked well. However, whenever TelemFFB loads this profile, the curve gets messed up (basically it is deleted beyond the first custom set point). Is this a TelemFFB problem or a VP control problem? (Or a me-problem?)

HHiob @walmis I encountered the following issue with VP control software. To increase ...

walmis•6/24/24, 10:40 AM

can you send me the vpconf file?

Wwalmis can you send me the vpconf file?

HiobOP•6/24/24, 11:36 AM

Sure, I will try to reproduce the issue and send you the file. To elaborate a bit further - I created a "detent" around the middle position by implementing a small spike in the spring curve. Worked like a charm when testing dry, but once the game started and the profile was loaded, it "blocked" the pedals to one side and when looking at the custom curve in VP control, it was messed up. Reseting it solves the issue for the session, but of course, the custom detent is gone. (I was using this for helicopters - the idea was to feel the middle position of the pedals, even though they are without spring forces otherwise)

HHiob Sure, I will try to reproduce the issue and send you the file. To elaborate a bi...

Number481•6/24/24, 11:49 AM

Sounds like you confirmed the profile did not push correctly, which is wierd since pushing from TelemFFB should be the same as loading a profile using the import button in configurator...

But.. don't forget that TelemFFB by default sets the spring to 0 with an override (which will also override any "sticky" you have in configurator). So unless you set the pedal spring mode to "Static" and set the gain in TelemFFB, you will never feel any spring.

NNumber481 Sounds like you confirmed the profile did not push correctly, which is wierd sin...

HiobOP•6/24/24, 11:52 AM

I know. The issue was, that the pedals didn't went limb when it happened, but stiff (only on one side) and either way it shouldn't alter the gain curve in the vpconf, no? I assume the issue occured due to my messing with the curve, but it's beyond my capabilities to pinpoint the reason. Probably some "division by zero" problem, I created....

Daystrom•6/24/24, 3:40 PM

@walmis just an FYI

AndyHill•6/24/24, 3:44 PM

well that is quite hazardous to your wallet

Daystrom•6/24/24, 3:47 PM

Should I report the MFG kit pre-order as well?

blave549•6/24/24, 3:51 PM

@walmis I was at the FSExpo in Las Vegas (a.k.a. Sin City) over the weekend. Virpil has a new grip that I'm quite excited about -- the FLNKR. There's nothing on the web about it yet that I can find, but it is part of a new "Expert Series" product line. Its body and trigger are metal, and it has a new hat design. One of my peeves about the Alpha and Alpha Prime Virpil grips that I had, but sold, is that I found it very difficult to press down on a hat without also actuating one of the other switches on the hat (L/R/U/D). The new hat locks into its center when slightly pressed down, which prevents that -- very clever. The grip feels great (it is pretty large though) and I was told that it's a replica of the grip that's in some Su jets.

I forgot to ask how much it will cost, but I'm not sure they would've told me. No release date yet.

I mention it only b/c I want to get it on your long-range A-A radar in terms of button/hat support on the Rhino. I will be holding off on buying the grip until that support is in place... It's shown in the product catalog I got at the show. EDIT: I just found some images of some of the new products: https://imgur.com/a/virpil-fsexpo-2024-hardware-pics-1Mq6as9

They also have a new Cadet grip that's coming out, and (not that it matters here) a new Expert Series "VMax Prime" throttle.

DDaystrom @walmis just an FYI

walmis•6/24/24, 4:31 PM

Thanks for the heads up! Submitted a dispute to cisco umbrella.

Number481•6/24/24, 4:39 PM

Cisco Umbrella - "We scare your users so you don't have to!"

AAndyHill 487 orders of Rhino on the wall, 487 orders of Rhino Walmis builds one sends it ...

TheZoq2•6/24/24, 4:41 PM

487 orders of Rhino on the wall, 487 orders of Rhino
Walmis builds one sends it away, 495 orders of Rhino on the wall

Diverzant•6/24/24, 5:17 PM

I know I read it somewhere but cant find it atm. VKB sticks, I need the blackbox to read the stick buttons, I guess I also need a longer cable and the final question the connector? What exactly is needed?

FlatSpin•6/24/24, 5:24 PM

Did you order the vkb adapter connector from Walmis?

Bblave549 @walmis I was at the FSExpo in Las Vegas (a.k.a. Sin City) over the weekend. Vir...

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:26 PM

nice

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:26 PM

it looks like a more accurate representation of more up to date Su-57 cockpit mockups

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:26 PM

As opposed to MCGU and T50 which were both more reflective of the late Su-35 design

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:27 PM

which is rather funny since I'm pretty sure the T50 name is supposed to evoke references to the prototype Su-57

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:27 PM

nicer hats too

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:27 PM

T50 hats look weird compared to MCGU and the real thing

FFlatSpin Did you order the vkb adapter connector from Walmis?

Diverzant•6/24/24, 5:28 PM

Will do when its time for the making of the actual order itself, forgot to do it on the preorder thingy. I am still quite a long way off but VKB is now in stock

DDiverzant Will do when its time for the making of the actual order itself, forgot to do it...

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:28 PM

the cable is integrated into the adapter

Diverzant•6/24/24, 5:30 PM

what about the stick connector itself?

DDiverzant what about the stick connector itself?

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:30 PM

? the adapter handles that, and the cable comes out of the adapter

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:30 PM

plug it into the blackbox

Diverzant•6/24/24, 5:31 PM

Wasnt there something like I need the connector for Gunfighter 2\3?

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:32 PM

DDiverzant Wasnt there something like I need the connector for Gunfighter 2\3?

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:32 PM

as long as you get a rev.b grip if you buy the rev.b adapter, or a rev.c grip if you buy the rev.c adapter

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:34 PM

OH do you have NXT right now? then you'll have to convert that grip or buy one

Diverzant•6/24/24, 5:35 PM

Oh okay so I choose which adapter I need. And it goes from the adapter into the blackbox and from there into the PC.

I have none currently, I am using the worst financial decision stick ever (simple simpit)

DDiverzant Oh okay so I choose which adapter I need. And it goes from the adapter into the ...

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:37 PM

yep, definitely get the rev.c one, it is way superior to rev.b

nubbins•6/24/24, 5:37 PM

pair with rev.C/GF4 grips

Diverzant•6/24/24, 5:46 PM

Ok, will do so! Honestly I cant wait to get rid of this POS stick I have atm...

Nnubbins Click to see attachment

PiNKSH!T•6/24/24, 6:10 PM

what colour is that m8?

PPiNKSH!T what colour is that m8?

nubbins•6/24/24, 6:14 PM

it is this color, it always comes across weird in pictures
https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating/H-349/aztec-teal

Cerakote - AZTEC TEAL

Shop Cerakote AZTEC TEAL H-349. Find the coating that fits your application. Choose from a wide variety of coatings with specific attributes and specialties.

PiNKSH!T•6/24/24, 6:15 PM

oh did you diy cerakote the grip?

PPiNKSH!T oh did you diy cerakote the grip?

nubbins•6/24/24, 6:19 PM

took it to a gun shop

Nnubbins took it to a gun shop

Old Prospector•6/24/24, 7:37 PM

Nice, I've been interested in doing the same. Has it held up well to your grip? I.e. no erosion.

Old Prospector•6/24/24, 7:45 PM

Maybe I'll do it on my Mongoose as a test.

OOld Prospector Nice, I've been interested in doing the same. Has it held up well to your grip? ...

nubbins•6/24/24, 8:09 PM

it's only been about a month and a bit. But since it's cerakote I have significantly more confidence in it than the factory e-coat that peels on older MCGUs

nubbins•6/24/24, 8:10 PM

can't say how it will be done on T50, as that's not metal and idk how well cerakote works on polymer and what prep is needed

Nnubbins T50 hats look weird compared to MCGU and the real thing

Icebeat•6/24/24, 8:13 PM

all looks the same to me

IIcebeat all looks the same to me

nubbins•6/24/24, 8:19 PM

dunno, virpil's old hats look a lil goofy

nubbins•6/24/24, 8:19 PM

new flankr grip looks amazing

Old Prospector•6/24/24, 8:23 PM

Ya I'm dying for that flnkr

Old Prospector•6/24/24, 8:23 PM

Might get my grip coated just to test the process

Old Prospector•6/24/24, 8:26 PM

Did you do anything to protect the label etching?

OOld Prospector Did you do anything to protect the label etching?

nubbins•6/24/24, 8:35 PM

no, all the labels are gone except for the brake lever/lot code text that i specifically told him to mask off (and even then he ran into difficulties and only preserved part of it)

nubbins•6/24/24, 8:35 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1145651561578647582/1252736361924919436

Nnubbins no, all the labels are gone except for the brake lever/lot code text that i spec...

Old Prospector•6/24/24, 9:00 PM

Great, thanks. Any other tips on the process?

OOld Prospector Great, thanks. Any other tips on the process?

nubbins•6/24/24, 9:06 PM

i'm trying to think of anything. I don't know how the T50 looks internally so I'm not sure if there's specifics. There was a little bit of concern over fine pitch threads everywhere inside the MCGU (it has a lot of screw posts), but it wasn't a problem.

@walmis I encountered the following issue with VP control software. To increase the centering precis

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