You shouldn't invert in the configurator, unless the center dot does not correspond to actual stick
You shouldn't invert in the configurator, unless the center dot does not correspond to actual stick movement.
Mthats why I inverted the axis. the center point is movin in the opposite direction than the one I move the stick.
WSo assuming the axis moves in the correct direction in the configurator, to verify the effect : the lateral force in telemffb should add some force in the direction of the pull i.e. if you roll left wing down, and hold the plane level using rudder the stick should feel a little pull to the left due to gravity.
Mok I can verify the effect. I assumed I had to feel the stick move to the rigth if I turn left on the ground. But this is wrong?
HJust to clarify: You don't have any axis inverted in DCS? When you have (properly) set the axis in the VP configurator, the axis in DCS should not need inverting.
W@walmis Hi Walmis. What's the chances of getting an auto calibration routine when a device is powered up ? I know almost all joysticks motion probably fall within the one motor rotation so the system knows where centre is. But for some non joystick designs ( like yokes) it is harder to do.
WI'm also working on a pedal design that would also fall into this category. The idea of having to calibrate before every use isn't ideal.
R!status
VHey @Rechs,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0602 on 2024-06-27
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 208 days, median is 209 days, max is 437 days
587 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0602 on 2024-06-27
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 208 days, median is 209 days, max is 437 days
587 Rhinos are shipped in total
MHey Hiob, I use MSFS not DCS. but yes everithing is set properly in the VP configurator
Mregards moritz
WHey, I'll research this, but in the meantime you can do something like this:
Let's say you're building a yoke and when powering it you need it to startup in the correct calibration. Now, let's say the simplest the position to startup is the fully forward one (for a stick it would be centered).
Then what you would do is to push it fully forward, reset the motors and check what the "raw" angle is. Adjust the belt/pulley so it's roughly 2000(+-500).
Next do the full auto calibration and store it.
After that, before powering on, move the yoke fully forward and it should start in the correct calibration every time.
Let's say you're building a yoke and when powering it you need it to startup in the correct calibration. Now, let's say the simplest the position to startup is the fully forward one (for a stick it would be centered).
Then what you would do is to push it fully forward, reset the motors and check what the "raw" angle is. Adjust the belt/pulley so it's roughly 2000(+-500).
Next do the full auto calibration and store it.
After that, before powering on, move the yoke fully forward and it should start in the correct calibration every time.
WThanks walmis, I think I understand. But would this process be dependent on being only one rotation out of the middle rotation ? What if there were 4 rotations from one axis end to the other ?
SAh, 4 rotations shouldn’t matter. Because the full forward calibration point will be between 0-4096 and it’ll be happy at startup. Full back will be ~18000 or something.
HAh, ok. Sorry, missed that. I have no idea about MSFS,,,,
AWould it maybe also be possible if the stick calibrates to 3800 full left to 3700 full right that the controller will remember that 3900 is actually a left defection, left of 0? So that exact centering of the physical motor doesn't matter as long is there is no ambiguity in position (because <360 degrees rotation overall)?
AI guess how this would work out is calibrating to find the middle and then the max deflections from the middle.
SAnyone know how to get this message to stop appearing everytime I plug in my Rhino?
SMany of us have this problem
AThere’s a setting in Edge to suppress this, however despite setting this, it does still happen unfortunately. The chrome version of this setting seems to work though, just an edge bug I believe (also, AFK so can’t check the exact setting, but people have posted about it in this server before)
SI hate Edge just a little more now
SI used to be about to disable Internet Explorer.....
IHi guys, I am using ALPS RKJXT1 on my new DIY grip and it has a problem, pushing in one of the 4 directions the center push button is also pressed do you know if there is any way to isolate or filter it using VPForce software?
EHi all, telemffb is still not working for me. dcs log shows this error. can someone help me?
Erelevant log
message.txt49.5KB
NI newly received Rhino and have problems. Window's USB controller setting detect Joystick, but Condor sim does not recognize any axis. In addition, Rhino FFB WebUSB Tool does not recognize my Virpil T50CM2's hat switch. How can I solve it?
WDownload the desktop configurator software, the web based one is just for a quick reference
NI also use desktop configurator but the results are the same.
Wdoes the axis move in the configurator?
Once you select the T50CM2 grip profile, the hat switch should "just work", do other buttons work?
Once you select the T50CM2 grip profile, the hat switch should "just work", do other buttons work?
WLooks like it's missing an engine 
Which AC is this, I presume the Hind?
Which AC is this, I presume the Hind?NYes, the asix moves in the configurator and functions are working and I can apply those setting to the base. VPC's hat switch is just working as 4 bottuns.
WHmm, maybe it's an older revision of the T50 grip, which buttons light up for the hats?
Make sure the grip is selected and the hats should appear as indicated in the pic.
Make sure the grip is selected and the hats should appear as indicated in the pic.
NWell, you may be right. My grip is a little old. I don't see that red arrow. Is it possible to edit a grip profile?
WCould you select "Generic Grip (debug)" and copy a few lines of scrolling text from the Debug tab ?
NHere you are[14:51:24.900] * USB Connected
[14:51:44.857] Config received
[14:51:56.436] Config received
[14:52:02.523] Config received
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[14:52:02.724] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
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[14:52:03.529] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.730] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.931] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.132] FF FB FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.334] FF FC FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.535] FF FE FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.736] FF FB FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.937] FF FC FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
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[14:52:05.742] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:05.942] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:06.147] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:06.346] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:06.551] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:51:44.857] Config received
[14:51:56.436] Config received
[14:52:02.523] Config received
[14:52:02.523] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:02.724] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:02.925] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.126] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.328] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.529] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.730] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.931] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.132] FF FB FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.334] FF FC FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.535] FF FE FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.736] FF FB FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.937] FF FC FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:05.138] FF FE FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:05.340] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:05.540] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:05.742] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
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NNot that one. Here
[14:51:24.900] * USB Connected
[14:51:44.857] Config received
[14:51:56.436] Config received
[14:52:02.523] Config received
[14:52:02.523] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:02.724] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:02.925] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.126] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.328] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.529] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.730] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:03.931] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.132] FF FB FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.334] FF FC FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.535] FF FE FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.736] FF FB FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:04.937] FF FC FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:05.138] FF FE FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
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[14:51:24.900] * USB Connected
[14:51:44.857] Config received
[14:51:56.436] Config received
[14:52:02.523] Config received
[14:52:02.523] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:02.724] FF FF FF 53 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
[14:52:02.925] FF FF FF 54 00 00 00 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41 41
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WOh yeah, it's definitely the older one
NThat means mine is not supported?
WCan you try the VPC WarBrd profile?
NNo, it won't work. Only T50-CM2 accepts the brake axis, but no hat switch.
WYeah, I'll need to add the hats for the firmware update. It's kinda strange it doesn't register them.
Could confirm which hats register correctly, which don't:
Could confirm which hats register correctly, which don't:
N8-way+push supposed to be a hat switch. But other 4-way switch can be set as hat switches because there are "hat as button" settings. anyway mine is as follows
NSam bottun is just a push bottun, not a 4 way switch
WI'll kindly ask to fill out the buttons that correspond to hats,
You can fill directly into this google sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jyj5VUKgx8KYb_0rTCk0_NimaHjZFaoxHQcyMFH52UI/edit?usp=sharing
select "Generic Grip" before filling it out, thanks
You can fill directly into this google sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jyj5VUKgx8KYb_0rTCk0_NimaHjZFaoxHQcyMFH52UI/edit?usp=sharing
select "Generic Grip" before filling it out, thanks
NI filled the table. There are no center push function.
THi Walmis, do you have a record of all the correct buttons for the Virpil Hawk-60 collective grip for the upcoming (soon) update? The problem at the moment is that the centre push lights up with any left right fwd back button push. Cheers.
WYes I do, should be all good
WYou can wire the hat onto these buttons(bits):
left = 13, right = 15, up = 16, down = 14, push= 26
and with a VPC T50 profile it should work as Hat1
left = 13, right = 15, up = 16, down = 14, push= 26
and with a VPC T50 profile it should work as Hat1
TThat diagram is for the newer T50CM2?
The original T50CM has a single push button on the thumb and a 4 way hat where the 8 way is.
Also I need to check and see if they are push to click (so 4 way with click).
I can try to find the Virpil page that shows it but there are some small differences between the old version and the newer one with all the 8 way hats and the 4 way on the thumb.
You can tell his is the older (but not the oldest) version because he has the Gray palm rest and button hats.
The next newer version was called a black out and had all the exact same features but has Black hats for the switches and a Black palm rest.
After that they made the newest version which is the photo you shared (has the 8 way and has a 4 way which replaced the single thumb button).
You can see it from comparing his stick with your photo.
I have that T50 so I have the links for the original stick layout… somewhere
The original T50CM has a single push button on the thumb and a 4 way hat where the 8 way is.
Also I need to check and see if they are push to click (so 4 way with click).
I can try to find the Virpil page that shows it but there are some small differences between the old version and the newer one with all the 8 way hats and the 4 way on the thumb.
You can tell his is the older (but not the oldest) version because he has the Gray palm rest and button hats.
The next newer version was called a black out and had all the exact same features but has Black hats for the switches and a Black palm rest.
After that they made the newest version which is the photo you shared (has the 8 way and has a 4 way which replaced the single thumb button).
You can see it from comparing his stick with your photo.
I have that T50 so I have the links for the original stick layout… somewhere
TBut for what it’s worth I’ve had zero issues using that old T50 with the Rhino you can even set up the flip trigger as a safety switch (as intended in real life).
Axis for the paddle brake works great as well…
Love the VP configurator for set
Axis for the paddle brake works great as well…
Love the VP configurator for set
EHi thanks for having a look. It might have been the hind. I flew different aircraft in that session. The problem is that Telemffb's DCS status light remains yellow, no matter what aircraft I select. It seems intermittent, too. Yesterday, after asking for help, it was working for the mirage f1 in single player. 2 days ago was not working for hind, mirage 2000, f5 this was multiplayer, but another rhino user. in the same server doesn't have the issue Other times I test it in an instant action and it would work, but then it wont in multiplayer with the same AC. The error I see in the log is always the same, and it repeats itself A LOT. Let me know what info you need to troubleshoot.