I don't really feel like "conspiracy" is the right word to use for "advertised features"? Recall and

I don't really feel like "conspiracy" is the right word to use for "advertised features"? Recall and even weather tracking are using system resources I would never dedicate

Valerie•7/5/24, 1:13 AM

I'm surprised Windows doesn't target lower power targets more considering how often it's running on a 5 year old i3 in enterprise situations.

IImNotDrumatic I don't really feel like "conspiracy" is the right word to use for "advertised f...

ChaiQi•7/5/24, 1:16 AM

Recall, maybe, but that did not exist when I had performance issues on Windows years ago. Weather tracking takes such a laughably tiny fraction of a percentage of processing power, which I also use on Linux, that it would not cause a 20C temperature increase

CChaiQi Recall, maybe, but that did not exist when I had performance issues on Windows y...

ImNotDrumaticOP•7/5/24, 1:17 AM

Not saying it's responsible for everything, Just saying they're perfectly fine with sacrificing user experience for a quick buck.

IImNotDrumatic Not saying it's responsible for everything, Just saying they're perfectly fine w...

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 1:18 AM

They're also doing a lot of work to contribute to Linux, both effort level and monetarily

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 1:18 AM

I think Windows just has different priorities

Valerie•7/5/24, 1:18 AM

Microsoft wouldn't hire people to work on Linux, that's silly

antheas•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

@Kyle Gospo when is CPU boost support dropping on kernel side?

KKyle Gospo They're also doing a lot of work to contribute to Linux, both effort level and m...

ImNotDrumaticOP•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

I don't think they're doing it for alruistic reasons.

Aantheas @Kyle Gospo when is CPU boost support dropping on kernel side?

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

Not sure, I need to look at the patch notes

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

Can you send me the commit series that you were merging?

IImNotDrumatic I don't think they're doing it for alruistic reasons.

Valerie•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

Well no shit, Azure relies on it lol

antheas•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

im not merging it yet just looking at it

antheas•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/cover.1714989803.git.perry.yuan@amd.com/

antheas•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

cachy told me Mario is removing the endpoint i use for hhd

IImNotDrumatic I don't think they're doing it for alruistic reasons.

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

GitHub alone has given us a couple Ferraris worth of bandwidth and compute time

VValerie Microsoft wouldn't hire people to work on Linux, that's silly

Pez•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

thats dumb and costs money

PPez thats dumb and costs money

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 1:19 AM

True

Pez•7/5/24, 1:20 AM

that's like saying they would hire someone to work on minecraft!

PPez that's like saying they would hire someone to work on minecraft!

Kamquat•7/5/24, 1:20 AM

I mean, they do SELL minecraft

KKyle Gospo GitHub alone has given us a couple Ferraris worth of bandwidth and compute time

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 1:20 AM

And I mean of the enzo variety

KKyle Gospo GitHub alone has given us a couple Ferraris worth of bandwidth and compute time

ImNotDrumaticOP•7/5/24, 1:20 AM

and in return the community develops software that they monetize

KKamquat I mean, they do SELL minecraft

Onihikage•7/5/24, 1:20 AM

Exactly, why would they need anybody to work on it? It still sells :clueless:

OOnihikage Exactly, why would they need anybody to work on it? It still sells :clueless:

Kamquat•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

Do they even still update it?

Kamquat•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

I have no idea lol

KKamquat I mean, they do SELL minecraft

Pez•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

they also sell linux :smirk:

IImNotDrumatic and in return the community develops software that they monetize

Kyle Gospo•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

At that point that's being upset about open source in general, I can't think of a single company that doesn't eventually monetize open source projects

Valerie•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

lmfao

PPez they also sell linux :smirk:

Kamquat•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

Ah yes, the Ol' Microsoft Linux

KKamquat Do they even still update it?

Valerie•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

Yes, both the Java and Bedrock (C++) versions.

KKamquat Ah yes, the Ol' Microsoft Linux

Pez•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

yes

KKyle Gospo At that point that's being upset about open source in general, I can't think of ...

ImNotDrumaticOP•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

It's a pet peeve, yea

Pez•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

stop making pets out of peeves

PPez yes

Kamquat•7/5/24, 1:21 AM

if you mean something like Azure or a cloud OS I mean yes but no

Valerie•7/5/24, 1:22 AM

Bazzite WSL when

Onihikage•7/5/24, 1:22 AM

IMO monetizing open-source/free-as-in-freedom software in some way is good for software ecosystems

Pez•7/5/24, 1:22 AM

if you don't then how are you gonna bring money to those projects

Onihikage•7/5/24, 1:22 AM

even having donations is better than not

Pez•7/5/24, 1:22 AM

everything needs money to be sustainable

PPez if you don't then how are you gonna bring money to those projects

Kamquat•7/5/24, 1:22 AM

I mean, many very important projects have a hell of a time getting any money

Kamquat•7/5/24, 1:22 AM

its a real problem

Johnny Appleseed•7/5/24, 1:22 AM

I don't think anyone's found a good solution to sustainability outside the big projects

Pez•7/5/24, 1:22 AM

i don't disagree

Kamquat•7/5/24, 1:22 AM

companies just use em and don't support it

Pez•7/5/24, 1:23 AM

they would stop happening entirely if they got zero money whatsoever

ImNotDrumaticOP•7/5/24, 1:23 AM

Donations I understand, but when monopolistic companies get involved, it just seems they're doing it for the free labor. Then they lock down the source so you can't tell if it's trustworthy