Has anyone mounted their rhino in a Sim fab pit? I’m about to order a DIY kit and was curious about

Has anyone mounted their rhino in a Sim fab pit? I’m about to order a DIY kit and was curious about the mounting solution as this is much larger than my VPC CM3 with a 200mm extension.

1142nd_Bama Has anyone mounted their rhino in a Sim fab pit? I’m about to order a DIY kit an...

Old Prospector•7/14/24, 4:45 PM

I also have a VPC on 200, interested

SScoll if someone experiment this behavior correctly can you please share your settings...

amadeus•7/14/24, 5:34 PM

I didn’t change or tune any settings, and for the spitfire, p51, and p47, the stick is dead when parked, and as I accelerate on take off, it stiffens up. Not sure if this is what you’re referring to or not

Broko•7/14/24, 5:49 PM

airspeed should have a huge impact on control forces. at slow speed, controls generally feel mushy and unresponsive with hardly any centering force while high speed can make the stick almost impossible to move with human strengh.

afaik, dcs does some axis scaling to simulate the maximum force a human could produce, but i dont like the way this interferes with FFB. (source here is the DCS forum, i dont know for sure how they implemented this)
if somebody knows more about this and if there is a workaround, id like to know

SScoll if someone experiment this behavior correctly can you please share your settings...

Number481•7/14/24, 5:57 PM

Forget about TelemFFB here. It has nothing to do with dynamic spring forces in DCS. That is completely handled by the native FFB implementation in each DCS module, which is something we have zero control over.

The spring effect gain values in VPforce Configurator will dictate the actual felt forces at any sim commanded "force coefficient", but we can't control how the sim tells the joystick to apply the forces.

Scoll•7/14/24, 9:13 PM

Ok, thank you for your reply (Hiob, amadeus, Broko and Number481) my settings was too low, i set almost 100% on Spring, Master, etc, and effectively i have this kind of behavior.

PokePoke•7/15/24, 12:14 AM

Are there anybody who tried moza ab9 in Fsexpo?

PokePoke•7/15/24, 12:15 AM

I preordered it but I am not sure whether it is good or not

Jabbers•7/15/24, 12:42 AM

Reviews should start coming out soon, they are stating a software update is coming on the 15th (tomorrow) and asked to not review till after that.

PPokePoke I preordered it but I am not sure whether it is good or not

142nd_BamaOP•7/15/24, 12:49 AM

i decided not to order it because it doesnt have a "force trim interrupt" i fly mainly helos so its useless to me so i decided to go with a rhino diy!

Jabbers•7/15/24, 1:28 AM

I reported that to them, i think the software update they are puting out is suppose to fix that, we will see

1142nd_Bama i decided not to order it because it doesnt have a "force trim interrupt" i fly ...

PokePoke•7/15/24, 2:10 AM

I think they will support it by software update

JJabbers Reviews should start coming out soon, they are stating a software update is comi...

PokePoke•7/15/24, 2:10 AM

Thanks for the hint

PPokePoke I think they will support it by software update 🙂

142nd_BamaOP•7/15/24, 2:11 AM

when i emailed them they said they sent it to the dev team

1142nd_Bama when i emailed them they said they sent it to the dev team

PokePoke•7/15/24, 2:13 AM

Thanks for the info, they will update probably

VPforceBot•7/15/24, 11:26 AM

:package:

RHINO #0626 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•7/15/24, 12:56 PM

:package:

RHINO #0628 Has Shipped!

VPforceBot•7/15/24, 1:17 PM

:package:

RHINO #0629 Has Shipped!

Aamadeus I didn’t change or tune any settings, and for the spitfire, p51, and p47, the st...

Booker•7/15/24, 5:38 PM

Don’t forget that elevator droop is modeled which is super cool. What this means is that on the ground if you put the stick in the center, it will move forward to the stop all by itself. This is because without air moving over them, the weight of gravity on the elevators will make them droop which pulls the stick forward. This is modeled on the P-51 for sure, not sure about the other warbirds.

amadeus•7/15/24, 5:52 PM

yeah, they probably add some sort of effect, and if not TelemFFB can definitely add it. Was more just speaking rhetorically about the general nature of the spring force being applied gradually based on air speed

Magpie•7/16/24, 3:36 AM

Coolest thing I found was in the Anton and one of my elevators got shot off, my pull force was halved. I wouldn’t have known it was gone without ffb

MMagpie Coolest thing I found was in the Anton and one of my elevators got shot off, my ...

ddrake1984•7/16/24, 9:43 AM

@Jabbers

VPforceBot•7/16/24, 11:03 AM

:package:

RHINO #0630 Has Shipped!

amadeus•7/16/24, 4:13 PM

Now we gotta wait till October for the FLNKR / Rhino combo

Old Prospector•7/16/24, 4:31 PM

Ordered mine too hehe

amadeus•7/16/24, 4:37 PM

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-david-cross-tobias-funke-there-are-dozens-of-us-dozens-gif-5426075

Tenor

Pyepye•7/16/24, 6:11 PM

What's FLNK?

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:13 PM

lol forgot an R

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:13 PM

the new virpil grip that just went on preorder

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:13 PM

https://virpil-controls.us.com/vpc-flnkr-grip.html

VPC FLNKR Grip

PRE-ORDER | Estimated Delivery October 2024

★ Replica Modern Russian Fighter Jet Grip
★ Premium Metal Grip Body
★ Metal Trigger Module and Brake Lever
★ Contactless Digital Brake Lever Axis
★ Contactless Digital Analogue Stick
★ Swappable Button and Hat Modules

Requires flightstick base. Sold separately.

Aamadeus https://virpil-controls.us.com/vpc-flnkr-grip.html

Dracks•7/16/24, 6:20 PM

I'd be tempted, but as I own the Alpha, I'm hesitant about the added value (except that I find it more beautiful than the Alpha)

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:21 PM

my normie alpha has started creaking with all the rhino forces heh

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:22 PM

i just ordered an alpha prime to hopefully rectify this, and have this flanker grip on pre-order as i much prefer the aesthetics, and also appreciate no twist

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:22 PM

(i think the twist stuff in the other virpils contribute to the creaking/not feeling clean)

Aamadeus (i think the twist stuff in the other virpils contribute to the creaking/not fee...

Bob Bushman•7/16/24, 6:25 PM

Isn't there a grub screw to lock out the twist on those ?

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:27 PM

there are, but i think the nature of allowing rotation at the grip level relative to the connector inevitably creates an an area where some metal has to connect to the plastic, and this is ultimately a weak point that over time wears down. an all metal grip, with no ability to rotate i think is the ultimate play

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:27 PM

the alpha prime is probably nearly or just as good given it's at least all metal and metal on metal connection

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:28 PM

i mostly just wish that virpil would sell twist as an additional feature in the alpha/prime

Aamadeus i just ordered an alpha prime to hopefully rectify this, and have this flanker g...

Dracks•7/16/24, 6:29 PM

Totally agree with you, the twist has created some technical concerns for me

. Well in short, I think the temptation will be short-lived

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:30 PM

the way i see it -- the alpha prime will only get a couple months of use, so i should be able to sell in good shape when the flnkr comes around

amadeus•7/16/24, 6:32 PM

so the real question is -- when we get our flnkr grips, how quickly can walmis get it working with the rhino? he'll have to probably make a profile, but also with the ability to support swapping out some switches...

Aamadeus so the real question is -- when we get our flnkr grips, how quickly can walmis g...

Dracks•7/16/24, 6:41 PM

Yes, probably, but I wonder if in the meantime we couldn't use one of the other profiles (?).
@walmis , What do you think?

SamNFTY•7/16/24, 7:17 PM

Did you all see this?
https://discord.com/channels/438688364359581707/1133631640862728202/1262774029765312605

SamNFTY•7/16/24, 7:18 PM

QR4Rigs making Rhino specific extensions.

Aamadeus https://virpil-controls.us.com/vpc-flnkr-grip.html

RoboGeoff•7/16/24, 9:41 PM

yikes. $310 for a Virpil grip?

amadeus•7/16/24, 9:42 PM

it's their high end grip, to be expected

amadeus•7/16/24, 9:43 PM

(fwiw -- we're all in here for a joystick base that starts at like $800)

RoboGeoff•7/16/24, 9:44 PM

I've always thought of Virpil grips to be on the cheaper end

RoboGeoff•7/16/24, 9:48 PM

but hey. maybe they're really stepping up with these new grips. I've only used some of their older plastic grips

amadeus•7/16/24, 9:48 PM

ehh, i wouldn't say that, i would say they've always been on the mid to higher end of the mid teir production stuff, like the only stuff better would be like super custom/military type stuff. Their alpha's before the prime were in the mid 200s, but dropped in price a bit with the Prime

Aamadeus ehh, i wouldn't say that, i would say they've always been on the mid to higher e...

nubbins•7/17/24, 1:26 AM

For sure, the FLNKR will elevate their grip line

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