i think what I'm getting at is: with spring set to 100% in configurator is not the strongest spring

i think what I'm getting at is: with spring set to 100% in configurator is not the strongest spring force/pull you can experience is all, so you can be decieved by thinking this is the hardest a spring will pull me in, and the game can mess with it in other ways, so i worry if you mess with the spring gain curves, you might get yourself into some strange scenarios when game effects mix with gain curves

Aamadeus i think what I'm getting at is: with spring set to 100% in configurator is not t...

Hiob•7/23/24, 10:08 PM

You need to specify which spring setting you are talking about. The effects tab gain will be overwritten by the game (unless you make it sticky), including the curve as far as I can tell. The spring gain on the master settings tab can’t be overwritten by the game. So, it will always limit the maximum force output.

amadeusOP•7/23/24, 10:10 PM

yeah i'm only talking about the only custom gain curves you can set in spring settings

amadeusOP•7/23/24, 10:10 PM

but my point is you're previewing that against a spring force that you apply in the configurator

amadeusOP•7/23/24, 10:10 PM

which is not necessarily what you'll experience in a game

Aamadeus which is not necessarily what you'll experience in a game

Hiob•7/23/24, 10:12 PM

No, of course not, because those don’t apply to a game that supports FFB. But if you preview them with a gain of 100%, I think the game can‘t exceed that.

amadeusOP•7/23/24, 10:13 PM

yup yup

HHiob You can edit the spring gain curve to achieve that. Make the first part of the c...

Reed•7/23/24, 11:26 PM

But i cannot adjust the 15% of master spring gain when adaptive centering is pulling the stick back to center after trimming. THats what im wanting to adjust.

Check6•7/24/24, 2:31 AM

I'm ready to give up , my winwing adapter doesn't work. Can someone please tell me a cable I can order on Amazon or somewhere to replace it? I have properly threaded extensions so I just need the cable type. I don't even care that I'm out the money for the adapter. I just need my rig up and running. Thank you!

CCheck6 I'm ready to give up , my winwing adapter doesn't work. Can someone please tell ...

walmis•7/24/24, 8:39 AM

Hey, put an order http://order.vpforce.eu - I'll send a replacement.

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RReed But i cannot adjust the 15% of master spring gain when adaptive centering is pu...

Hiob•7/24/24, 9:29 AM

My suggestion was that you don't need the adaptive recentering, when the basic recentering works better. But of course your milage may vary. For me the solution worked quite well for resolving the poor centering (for pedals though).

Reed•7/24/24, 11:09 AM

Mike station is too long. The regular centering isn’t very accurate. I have to use balance, spring, and adaptive centering to keep the stick centered to the height of the stick unless you can show me how to keep the sinner of the stick at 100% spring gain and move towards 60% as I get away from the center

frumpy•7/24/24, 3:52 PM

I lost all forces, the joystick itself works. Restart of stick and computer did not help. I reset it to factory settings, does not help either. Any advise?

walmis•7/24/24, 4:35 PM

Enable Spring in the Effect tab, everything else looks good. You might want to import the default Rhino configuration file from "configs" directory inside the VP configurator folder.

Wwalmis Enable Spring in the Effect tab, everything else looks good. You might want to i...

frumpy•7/24/24, 5:58 PM

I did and applied the changes, it beeped. Also I loaded the default config. No force.

walmis•7/24/24, 6:12 PM

The spring effect strength is at 0%

Wwalmis The spring effect strength is at 0%

frumpy•7/24/24, 6:54 PM

Oh, that screenshot was before I loaded the default config. I missed that. Still, after loading the default Rhino config and spring effect strength at 100 the issue persist.

Ffrumpy Oh, that screenshot was before I loaded the default config. I missed that. Still...

Hiob•7/24/24, 7:01 PM

What happens when you reset the motors in the debug tab?

amadeusOP•7/24/24, 7:01 PM

what does your debug tab show?

frumpy•7/24/24, 7:02 PM

the two resets were made by me.

walmis•7/24/24, 7:08 PM

Looks like some application created an inactive spring force or maybe the effect left dangling.
If you run DCS you need to start the actual flight, otherwise the stick will be limp in the menu.

Ffrumpy the two resets were made by me.

amadeusOP•7/24/24, 7:30 PM

so according to your debug tab -- there are no springs applied, you said you applied a spring in your previous screenshot -- but it's not showing there, did you press apply affter setting the spring values to 100%?

amadeusOP•7/24/24, 7:31 PM

(also yeah -- if you're running a game at the moment, it may override what you're doing)

frumpy•7/24/24, 7:36 PM

I started DCS and the A-10, worked fine and when quitting, the spring came back. Thank you guys!

amadeusOP•7/24/24, 7:48 PM

as a general thing for me -- i like to have no forces applied by default, so it's obvious when the game takes over

RoboGeoff•7/24/24, 9:10 PM

@walmis Is there any ETA on the updates for RealSimulator grips? I'm using a RS F-18 grip and there are three major buttons that are not detected using the RealSimulator grip profile. They are Recce depress, Sensor Control depress and Trim hat depress. I screen shoted the debug info for these three buttons, and I was wondering if this information would help updating the RS F-18 grip. Thanks

RoboGeoff•7/24/24, 9:17 PM

CCheck6 I'm ready to give up , my winwing adapter doesn't work. Can someone please tell ...

TrigaNZ•7/24/24, 10:16 PM

I had mine apart yesterday for other reasons and I discovered that the plug in the Rhino had slipped down and was not making correct contact with the adaptor. You can take off the two screws and lift it up a but, push the cable up from the bottom to help. (remove the dust cover.)

RRhino @walmis I'm getting the 32 button error with my winwing adapter, I've tested the...

Rhino•7/25/24, 1:22 PM

@walmis sorry to ping again but the winwing adapter doesnt work for me either

142nd_Bama•7/25/24, 2:26 PM

Finally got my rhino base built late last night, plan on plugging it in this afternoon. I’ve yet to have time to comb thru the manual… if a few short words can someone explain the purpose of the setting vs effect vs teleffb or whatever it is. Keep in mind I only fly dcs and mainly helos! Thanks in advance!

RRhino @walmis sorry to ping again but the winwing adapter doesnt work for me either

TheAmazinGreat•7/25/24, 2:57 PM

Have you tried pushing down the connector hard to make sure it’s seated? A lot of times it seems the pins just need a little extra to make contact.

VRS-410 Sakkay•7/25/24, 3:00 PM

Hi. What does it: new privat slash command -mean?

Spitfire ZX•7/25/24, 3:06 PM

pretty sure it's these

VVRS-410 Sakkay Hi. What does it: new privat slash command -mean?

Bob Bushman•7/25/24, 3:06 PM

Just another way to talk to the bot.

Bob Bushman•7/25/24, 3:08 PM

With the info command followed by your email you get a bit response with how it's going, only you will actually see those messages so don't worry.

AdiSz•7/25/24, 3:49 PM

Hi, couldn´t use my rhino for a long time. Now there is a new firmware.(I´m still on 1.0.15) but I cannot download it. (not in chrome nor in MS edge).

1142nd_Bama Finally got my rhino base built late last night, plan on plugging it in this aft...

Dracks•7/25/24, 7:48 PM

In a nutshell:

- You have the configuration software
- you have the effects software (telemffb)
- you've got DCS

Read the manual carefully, because you'll have all the answers and more in just a few minutes!

You need to configure your Rhino (1st software) then DCS (important because it natively manages ffb). Then run telemffb, which gives you the effects for each plane/helicopter. Most of them are directly recognized.

After that, you're left with the little details (which will take some time).

Dracks•7/25/24, 7:51 PM

And after you go to the canal telemffb_user and learn a lot !

Dracks•7/25/24, 7:51 PM

Some users had posted chopper profile

142nd_Bama•7/26/24, 2:56 AM

so i somewhat had it working, downloaded telemffb, downloaded a file from the #

knowledge-base and my stuff went crazy, tried to start all over agin with the first "center" calibration and now my figures arent near 2000, any ideas?

142nd_Bama•7/26/24, 2:56 AM

AAdiSz Hi, couldn´t use my rhino for a long time. Now there is a new firmware.(I´m stil...

walmis•7/26/24, 6:59 AM

Try this fix:
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142nd_Bama•7/26/24, 2:12 PM

Is there a setting to give more holding power at the central trimmed position? Looking for a more constant spring load as opposed to progressive.

1142nd_Bama Is there a setting to give more holding power at the central trimmed position? L...

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[OR] SerGeant•7/26/24, 3:18 PM

Adaptive Recentering is your friend.

[[OR] SerGeant Adaptive Recentering is your friend.

142nd_Bama•7/26/24, 3:26 PM

Ummmm. It does help but that’s not what I’m looking for, unless I was doing it wrong…. Think of it as I’m wanting a preloaded spring feel, or a linear spring. Almost center detent like without the bump… does that make sense

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[OR] SerGeant•7/26/24, 3:29 PM

I get it. You don’t want a linear increase in spring load.
So you have to work with custom spring curves. Maybe someone can explain it better. I didn’t use that feature before.

mattback•7/26/24, 5:16 PM

hello there, @walmis when you last requested i send in a video in the debug mode showing the twist grip values, were you able to view the video i sent, and is there anything more that is needed while you work on the latest update to the register size for the twist grip

1142nd_Bama Is there a setting to give more holding power at the central trimmed position? L...

Hiob•7/27/24, 7:30 AM

Put an additional point on the spring curve (symmetrical) and steepen the first part of the curve. That will greatly enhance the initial spring force right from the center (and increase the centering power).

Teeks•7/27/24, 11:50 AM

my rhino is no longer showing up in windows, but it is showing up in ffb configurator

Teeks•7/27/24, 11:50 AM

any ideas?

Teeks•7/27/24, 11:53 AM

(and as a result not showing up in dcs)

i think what I'm getting at is: with spring set to 100% in configurator is not the strongest spring

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