normal distro simplify install but complicate debugging, using ostree makes it easier to reproduce p
normal distro simplify install but complicate debugging, using ostree makes it easier to reproduce problem since it is the same image
INo
BThanks 
Is there any way to opt-out of it?
Is there any way to opt-out of it?
KNot use ostree and still use Bazzite? No
Tlibostree good
Ait is not an option
Tyea i would recommend something like nobara if you want fedora workstation and not atomic
Aif you dont install programs it works ok
Aand the library i made for reducing update times is on unstable
Aand it should make updates 3-4x faster
T
i install applications all the timeAlayer
Tyea i dont layer
Tflatpak, distrobox, brew, and appimage have everything i need personally
Wis kde or gnome recommended for bazzite?
or is there no difference in features needed for gaming?
or is there no difference in features needed for gaming?
Jyou shouldn't be interacting with it often, ostree is for the composition of the images
Tboth have equal features but iirc gnome wayland doesn't work with VR yet
Tbut other than that both have all the other stuff for bazzite
Wahh nice, ill use kde then, how good is vr on linux?
Tworse than windows
Ti think you need the steamvr beta too
Wahh damn
Will use windows for vr then
BI often feel like I have to use it thought? I install programs regularly. Everytime I use any flatpack there's always something that doesn't work. I just spent the last hour or so trying to install google chrome without it being a flatpack, because of course it also had proglems with certain developer features not working). It worked once I finally got it installed as a non-flat pack.
BIs all "installed" applications on linux not matter what system you use basically "containerized" ?
Bor is it only flatpacks, and rpm-ostree is only making the install process secure?
Trpm-ostree is layering rpms
Tyou'll run into slower updates, dependency issues that can break updates, etc.
Tits last resort stuff
Jyeah that's just your old distro but slower
Tour docs contain this info on installing and managing applications
Ktypically you shouldn't need to layer all that many things. A lot of things are fine in flatpak or distrobox etc.
BI've not had a single important flatpak work properly for me.
Unity = issues
Vscode = issues
Chrome = issues
Discord = issues
Unity = issues
Vscode = issues
Chrome = issues
Discord = issues
Tyea the goal is to be as maintainence-free as possible with the ability to easily rollback system updates if regressions occur
Athis is probably not true, afaik linux use more dynamic deps compared to windows
TSome of those should be in distrobox containers
TNamely the development stuff
Tunity & vscode
KThe things which I do have to layer, I tend to use bluebuild to put into a custom oci, rather than locally. But I do those on a Kinoite base. I only actually use Bazzite on my Ally at the moment.
Tdiscord on Linux has issues regardless of package format which is why so many vencord clients exist
BThans for allt he info here btw. Reading up on various terms, as they come in! Still kinda new all of this.
II couldn.t get vencord to work
Tsome clients break yea
KI've never actually installed any form of discord, I just use the browser 
Tthat works too
BExcept with Nitro and HD streaming 
IInstall via flatpak and that's it
Tdoes hd streaming work anywhere on linux lol
KDiscord is just a glorified irc to me, I don't use any of the voice or streaming features lol
II did it that way
II get errors when I try to open it
