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Zeglius•8/31/24, 1:07 AM

And if has "TI" in the name even better

BlazinByte•8/31/24, 1:07 AM

BTW congrats with my severe ADHD I typically reinstall operating systems several times a week

I can honestly say I have used Bazzite the longest out of any distro, perhaps that is due to me being able to just rebase into whatever I want and distrobox really helps with my "itch" to try something on one OS

ZZeglius Yeah this shows I'm a filthy ignorant. All I know is the bigger the number of th...

Valerie•8/31/24, 1:07 AM

AMD is on 7000
Nvidia is on 4000

Need I say more?

PPez you are scrutinizing stopgap solutions that only matter because we are developin...

Pez•8/31/24, 1:07 AM

i can elaborate further on this if you want but suffice it to say dlss and framegen etc. are literally unimportant for the future of gaming

Dd3Xt3r https://youtube.com/watch?v=p0fW5SLFphU

Kyle Gospo•8/31/24, 1:07 AM

I am a firm believer that Intel designed this thing to fail, because they didn't use it

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Zeglius•8/31/24, 1:08 AM

Wasn't Nvidia in the 5000 already or something?

�𖣂 which cheap but still great GPU of AMD you suggest, as I got a GTX 1050ti and ne...

Valerie•8/31/24, 1:08 AM

Depends on your budget

Pez•8/31/24, 1:08 AM

they are in the limelight right now because it means people hanging onto their ten year old hardware still have a shot at playing games made for the next ten years of hardware

VValerie Depends on your budget

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200 euro

Zeglius•8/31/24, 1:08 AM

Anyway but yeah, everyone is Nvidia this Nvidia that, so almost never heard of AMD cards

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𖣂•8/31/24, 1:08 AM

nothing too crazy

PPez you are scrutinizing stopgap solutions that only matter because we are developin...

Goose: The forefather of Cush•8/31/24, 1:09 AM

A stopgap solution to a problem they created, isn't really much of a defense of it though. I hear people talk about the generational difference all the time- But in reality it's entirely bullshit. And you can tell because every time these companies talk about it it's like oh in the next gen we'll have more power. Then the "next gen" arrives, and everything is still an issue. Games locked to 30 fps, games downscaled way below native. The reality is if a studio thinks they can save money by leaning on those crutches, they will every time.

Pez•8/31/24, 1:09 AM

if you own a super hardcore bleeding edge system you literally will not have to think about DLSS or framegen etc. in the next 5 years

KKyle Gospo I am a firm believer that Intel designed this thing to fail, because they didn't...

Valerie•8/31/24, 1:09 AM

Intel execs humiliation kink gone too far when they realise this time they might actually crash the company

PPez if you own a super hardcore bleeding edge system you literally will not have to ...

Goose: The forefather of Cush•8/31/24, 1:09 AM

Except that's not true. To max out quite a few modern games even on a 4090 you need DLSS

Goose: The forefather of Cush•8/31/24, 1:09 AM

Mostly due to games offering some ridiculous total path tracing mode granted

GGoose: The forefather of Cush Except that's not true. To max out quite a few modern games even on a 4090 you n...

Pez•8/31/24, 1:10 AM

did you miss the very last 3 words of this sentence

ZZeglius Wasn't Nvidia in the 5000 already or something?

d3Xt3rOP•8/31/24, 1:10 AM

Not yet, 4090 is still the highest. And in 5 years, we get to finally use the Vegeta DBZ meme.

GGoose: The forefather of Cush A stopgap solution to a problem they created, isn't really much of a defense of ...

Pez•8/31/24, 1:10 AM

and this is full of shit. nvidia didn't "create this problem". the reason we need these stopgaps is because artists are looking for a solution to lighting problems that are fundamental to how renderers have been developed for the last 30 years

Pez•8/31/24, 1:10 AM

raytracing isn't some new fancy shit

PPez did you miss the very last 3 words of this sentence

Goose: The forefather of Cush•8/31/24, 1:10 AM

The next years?

Pez•8/31/24, 1:10 AM

don't be intellectually dishonest

PPez raytracing isn't some new fancy shit

Kyle Gospo•8/31/24, 1:11 AM

https://youtu.be/mtHDSG2wNho?si=R7XDrO5L5Umi2mZD

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Quake Wars: Ray Traced

www.qwrt.de - Video of a ray traced version of Enemy Territory: QUAKE Wars. The ray traced port has been done by the Intel ray tracing research group.

Kyle Gospo•8/31/24, 1:11 AM

Real-time frame rates, 16 years ago

Kyle Gospo•8/31/24, 1:11 AM

Granted I think this was on larabee

Kyle Gospo•8/31/24, 1:11 AM

And that died to death

Kyle Gospo•8/31/24, 1:11 AM

And took project offset with it, Intel I'll never forgive you

Pez•8/31/24, 1:12 AM

the entire fucking point is that modern day artists want their lighting model to work naturally and not require 500 hours of fucking around to make every scene look acceptable

KKyle Gospo https://youtu.be/mtHDSG2wNho?si=R7XDrO5L5Umi2mZD

Goose: The forefather of Cush•8/31/24, 1:12 AM

That water looks crazy for the time.

Pez•8/31/24, 1:12 AM

we are developing the hardware capabilities to do this

Pez•8/31/24, 1:12 AM

nvidia's raytracing cores are not some kind of special proprietary shit either, all they do is run simd operations

Pez•8/31/24, 1:13 AM

amd are on the backfoot because instead of dedicating space to that they will just use regular compute operations to the same effect

PPez the entire fucking point is that modern day artists want their lighting model to...

Goose: The forefather of Cush•8/31/24, 1:13 AM

Damn that really sucks, because modern gamers want to not need a 800 dollar GPU to play games

Pez•8/31/24, 1:13 AM

right

Pez•8/31/24, 1:13 AM

so play different games

Pez•8/31/24, 1:13 AM

or buy a machine that can handle games that you will play ten years from now

Pez•8/31/24, 1:13 AM

like a playstation 5

Pez•8/31/24, 1:13 AM

there isn't some irony in this

Kyle Gospo•8/31/24, 1:13 AM

Retracing will be here one day, I just find it to be dishonest we're running games at a quarter or less the resolution on $1,000 GPUs to get playable framerates

Zeglius•8/31/24, 1:13 AM

Games that requires ray tracing stuff doesn't feel like is done to last