DevHeads IoT Integration Server•15mo ago

Hey guys, what do you think about the future of Open-source contributions in embedded systems. Are

Hey guys, what do you think about the future of Open-source contributions in embedded systems. Are corporate interests slowly undermining the true spirit of open-source contributions in embedded systems? Can big companies and the open-source community ever find common ground, or are we heading toward inevitable conflict over control and innovation? @Middleware & OS and @MCU, MPU & Firmware

DDtynin Hey guys, what do you think about the future of Open-source contributions in emb...

ke7c2mi•10/9/24, 4:21 PM

Flip that round - open source has over time filled more and more of the niche. Things were far more proprietary a decade ago.

DDtynin Hey guys, what do you think about the future of Open-source contributions in emb...

ChoRam•10/9/24, 4:22 PM

I want to know why this question now? Has anything happened in recent times?

barafael•10/9/24, 4:23 PM

I strongly believe and also weakly hope that open source software systems are and will be simply better in many metrics.

CChoRam I want to know why this question now? Has anything happened in recent times?

DtyninOP•10/9/24, 4:37 PM

not per say tho...but I hope the future of open-source contribution in embedded system should be community driven as opposed by some folks that thinks otherwise tho

CChoRam I want to know why this question now? Has anything happened in recent times?

techielew•10/9/24, 5:01 PM

Watch what has happened/is happening/will happen with Zephyr

techielew•10/9/24, 5:02 PM

Linux Foundation dues aren’t cheap at membership levels that matter

Ttechielew Watch what has happened/is happening/will happen with Zephyr

ChoRam•10/9/24, 5:18 PM

Zephyr is FOSS right? Is it becoming closed source?

DDtynin not per say tho...but I hope the future of open-source contribution in embedded ...

Ming•10/9/24, 6:12 PM

Looking at things like the Linux Kernel....
The most commits to the kernel come from corporations (Microsoft is actually one of the biggest contributors to the Kernel!).
A lot of the kernel maintainers are employed by corporations.

However, none of that stops individuals from contributing their bits to the kernel.

I see it as a positive that enterprises can commit things that improve software for their use case and as is the spirit of open-source - everybody benefits.

If an enterprise tried to block commits to an open-source project, then with the 'cancel culture' the bad PR would be bad for their bottom line and so very quickly counter-productive.

CChoRam Zephyr is FOSS right? Is it becoming closed source?

Ming•10/9/24, 6:53 PM

Zephyr is run by the Linux Foundation so is not going closed source anytime soon!

Roshan Baig Mogal•10/9/24, 7:00 PM

Hi Community ! Myself Mogal Roshan Baig , done Bachelors in Computer Science and Engineering currently working to enhance my skills on embedded systems , and Iam very much interested in open source projects. Any help or suggestion would be appreciated. Iam totally beginner please suggest me some new opensource projects.
Thanks.

RRoshan Baig Mogal Hi Community ! Myself Mogal Roshan Baig , done Bachelors in Computer Science and...

Marvee Amasi•10/10/24, 6:32 AM

Hi Mogal, nice for you to join us

. Since you are starting out in embedded systems and want to get into open source projects, I will suggest that you look into some beginner friendly platforms like Arduino, ESP32, or STM32. They have active communities and plenty of projects to contribute to. You can explore open source repositories on GitHub related to IoT, robotics, or home automation great places to start

matthewflynn_•10/10/24, 8:30 AM

Hi there. I've been working as a .net dev and want to use the

Iot.Devices.Imu

Iot.Devices.Imu

library to calibrate and use a acceleormeter on a project I am building.

I have had issues with a bug using an

MPU-6050

MPU-6050

. I went to buy another in case it was a dud and was sent a

Adafruit TDK InvenSense ICM-20948 9-DoF IMU (MPU-9250 Upgrade) (STEMMA QT / Qwiic)

Adafruit TDK InvenSense ICM-20948 9-DoF IMU (MPU-9250 Upgrade) (STEMMA QT / Qwiic)

as they were out of stock.

I've tried writing my own class to get the data and calibrate but I my readings seem to really vary in the sample set on the Gyro side?

Does anyone know where I can find a details of the unit so I can make sure I'm reaidn ghte right data? (I can share my code if anyone wants to look).

Mmatthewflynn_Hi there. I've been working as a .net dev and want to use the `Iot.Devices.Imu` ...

Camila_99$$•10/10/24, 9:42 AM

Hi @matthewflynn_ welcome!
I’d be happy to take a look at your code to help pinpoint the calibration issues. For the ICM-20948, you might want to check the specific register map and data sheet to ensure you're reading the right values, as it differs a bit from the MPU-6050. Could be helpful to review your Gyro calibration routine too.

Mmatthewflynn_Hi there. I've been working as a .net dev and want to use the `Iot.Devices.Imu` ...

ZacckOsiemo•10/10/24, 10:38 AM

do you have a way to test on peek into what the hardware is doing, i.e an oscilloscope or a Logic analyser?

CCamila_99$$Hi @matthewflynn_ welcome! I’d be happy to take a look at your code to help pin...

matthewflynn_•10/10/24, 10:57 AM

Hi there thank you for taking the time - I added the code to post in code review - if you neeed anything else let me know

I've been working on it further and trying to stabalise the results but to no avail.

ZZacckOsiemo do you have a way to test on peek into what the hardware is doing, i.e an oscill...

matthewflynn_•10/10/24, 10:58 AM

I'm a bit of a newby to this so I'll happily be guided - its on a raspberry pi 2, so I can ssh in and get the data this way through apython script if you think that would potentially help?

MMarvee Amasi Hi Mogal, nice for you to join us 😊. Since you are starting out in embedded sy...

Roshan Baig Mogal•10/10/24, 1:27 PM

Thanks a lot for response ....

! I will checkout STM32 ,as I have STM32 kit. Do I need to search GitHub for projects or is there any section of projects in this server?
Thanks.

RRoshan Baig Mogal Thanks a lot for response ....🙂! I will checkout STM32 ,as I have STM32 kit. D...

Umesh Lokhande•10/10/24, 2:45 PM

Hi Roshan, may I know which stm32 kit you use I mean Nucleo or Discovery board? Will be happy to point you to the right resources. Feel free to check out the event section. Every week several activities are happening (here) with great learning opportunities. Best wishes!

R1Tap•10/10/24, 3:25 PM

anyone who is good at computer networks here
I need to setup a voip using microcontrollers
I'm using pjsip

ES-Tech•10/10/24, 3:40 PM

@R1Tap I am confident

UUmesh Lokhande Hi Roshan, may I know which stm32 kit you use I mean Nucleo or Discovery board? ...

Roshan Baig Mogal•10/10/24, 6:15 PM

Hi Umesh,
Thanks for reaching out ! It is Nucleo F446re.
Thanks!

RRoshan Baig Mogal Hi Umesh, Thanks for reaching out ! It is Nucleo F446re. Thanks!

Umesh Lokhande•10/11/24, 8:05 AM

Hi @Roshan Baig Mogal Great, these days in Engineering Hour covers wide topics like FreeRTOS, CMSIS-RTOS, etc. with STM32F4 Nucleo. Also, for beginners getting-started type videos incl. basic, adc, pwm, uart etc. I suggest to check the playlist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnwE9EfFpls. Cheers!

asefmo•10/11/24, 10:37 AM

hi!

asefmo•10/11/24, 10:40 AM

Has someone some knowledge about Lorawan

Aasefmo Has someone some knowledge about Lorawan 🙂

ZacckOsiemo•10/11/24, 1:01 PM

if you just ask the question someone may answer

DtyninOP•10/11/24, 2:12 PM

Hey guys, what do you think? Is the use of Proprietary software better than Open-source software in Critical systems such as those used in healthcare, aviation, or government? I'd like to know your judgments when it comes to critical systems. Let me hear your view.
@Middleware & OS @MCU, MPU & Firmware

DDtynin Hey guys, what do you think? Is the use of Proprietary software better than Open...

ZacckOsiemo•10/11/24, 2:27 PM

If it's a critical software some part of it will surely end up being proprietary and depending on how you develop some parts of it will be open source, I think this is a very wide net cast here. Keen to see what others feel

DDtynin Hey guys, what do you think? Is the use of Proprietary software better than Open...

Ming•10/11/24, 2:33 PM

Define 'better'!
Do you any kind of networking? If so, they are probably using something from the BSD TCP/IP Stack - which is open source.
Do these services run on a server? If so they will probably be running Linux - which is open source.

Having worked in all of those sectors, what you may find is that they want a 'supported' version of things. That's why they want something like RedHat or Ubuntu. These are still open-source

they just come with a support contract and a phone number that the customer can use to shout at some poor techie when something goes wrong.

aying for something != closed source

nour_oud•10/11/24, 2:46 PM

@here 10 minutes until our event: Embedded or Not, Virtualization is Headed Towards a Device Near You
Don’t miss it!
https://discord.gg/7YmCCMFe?event=1293245463713288233

nour_oud•10/11/24, 2:54 PM

Event Link: https://app.livestorm.co/devheads-community/devheads-weekly-office-hours-1

ZZacckOsiemo If it's a critical software some part of it will surely end up being proprietary...

DtyninOP•10/11/24, 3:19 PM

well..I concur, was wondering what could be the view of others on it.

UUmesh Lokhande Hi @Roshan Baig Mogal Great, these days in *Engineering Hour* covers wide topics...

Roshan Baig Mogal•10/11/24, 6:23 PM

Hi @Umesh Lokhande,
Thanks a lot for the playlist. I will check that one and today's session on virtualization was very informative.
Thanks!

Aasefmo hi!

techielew•10/11/24, 7:27 PM

Yes there are some community members who work with it. What's your question/issue, Asefmo? BTW, welcome. (@zacck lives under a bridge and eats all manner of bones)

RRoshan Baig Mogal Hi @Umesh Lokhande, Thanks a lot for the playlist. I will check that one and to...

Umesh Lokhande•10/12/24, 3:15 AM

Hi Roshan, Welcome! Glad to know you found today's session useful.

Accur4te•10/12/24, 3:56 PM

Hey everyone, I'm currently working on an electromagnetic flow meter project and have finished the assembly, including the electrodes and Faraday cage. Now, I’m moving on to the circuitry, but I’m facing some challenges. The signals from the electrodes are in the mV range (or smaller), so I’ll need an amplifier circuit for proper signal processing. Additionally, I’m looking for a suitable H-bridge or similar setup for controlling the electromagnets.

As a second-year undergraduate student, I don’t have enough experience to confidently move forward with the design. Could anyone recommend resources or guidance on how to approach the circuit design for these requirements?

wafa_ath•10/12/24, 5:57 PM

Elon Musk has officially announced the launch of Tesla’s Optimus robot, designed to handle many of the same tasks we saw in the movie .

The price for one unit is around $20,000, which many consider to be quite affordable for American households and even internationally

What are your thoughts on its impact on automation, and would you get one?

Wwafa_ath Elon Musk has officially announced the launch of Tesla’s Optimus robot, designed...

Marvee Amasi•10/12/24, 6:51 PM

almost a real life Jarvis from Iron Man tho . But jokes aside, the Optimus robot can really do tough jobs, it might change how factories and businesses work. Is Tesla using their existing neural networks for control, or did they build something new for this robot?

Wwafa_ath Elon Musk has officially announced the launch of Tesla’s Optimus robot, designed...

aymen ammari•10/12/24, 7:29 PM

Wow, looks like we're one step closer to living in a sci-fi movie! With a $20,000 price tag, Optimus could be the most expensive housekeeper ever—but hey, at least it won’t complain about doing the dishes!

nour_oud•10/12/24, 9:04 PM

Master the essentials of task synchronization in FreeRTOS with our session on Mutexes & Semaphores for Arm Cortex-M. Learn to effectively manage resource sharing, improve application stability, and implement best practices for real-time systems! @Event Pings
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Wwafa_ath Elon Musk has officially announced the launch of Tesla’s Optimus robot, designed...

Boss lady•10/13/24, 9:25 AM

Wow this is nice i hope we dont leta regret the choices of having robots run our daily lives

Aaymen ammari Wow, looks like we're one step closer to living in a sci-fi movie! With a $20,00...

Boss lady•10/13/24, 9:26 AM

Until it gets smarter and start questioning why u dont do things

te0•10/13/24, 10:19 AM

anyone here who's been working in the industry for years?

te0•10/13/24, 10:19 AM

i just wanted to know where is embedded heading to?

te0•10/13/24, 10:19 AM

low power, linux, AI

Tte0 anyone here who's been working in the industry for years?

Ming•10/13/24, 1:07 PM

Does 30 years in the industry count?
The only thing one can say with certainty is: Smaller, Faster, Cheaper
There will always be a split between Bare Metal, RTOS & Linux - mainly because these fill difference niches. There will just be more of all three.

My only guess is that the AI bubble will burst. At the moment, you just slap an 'AI' label on it and then go raise some investment. This is something I have seen too many times with DotCom, Web2.0, etc, etc.
They all burst - leaving the things that actually had purpose space to grow properly.

LLMs are good for helping, but they don't understand.
There is a lot of good AI/ML out there, but is in far more specific areas not general level intelligence.
When I was researching AI in 1992, full AI was always '20 years away'. 30 years later, it is still '20 years away'! Saying that, the advances are coming through far more rapidly now.
As embedded gets more powerful, then yes, there will be a lot more 'AI' at the edge as there has always been a flow of technology down to the smaller devices. I remember when having a network stack on a hand-held device was exciting!

MMing Does 30 years in the industry count? The only thing one can say with certainty ...

techielew•10/13/24, 2:15 PM

I’m curious how much the Musk Optimus robots “understand” at this point. You’d think they would have to at least to some extent to perform as advertised.

Tte0 i just wanted to know where is embedded heading to?

Umesh Lokhande•10/13/24, 2:35 PM

These days I see embedded devices in two forms, low-power battery operated devices used widely in IoT. And other category is power-hungry devices, capable of running n training AI algo. and require huge compute. Now as future is AI, with embedded devices surely become more expensive in terms of power consumption. Because energy is not yet cheap at many geo. But, I agree and enjoy reading news and learning associated cost in the market for operation and deployment. By the way it's possible to run small logic (pre-trained model) in the form of rules to perform at the edge for battery-operated embedded devices. Now you can called it as AI or not is very subjective. Happy to hear from others perspective.

Nnour_oud Master the essentials of task synchronization in FreeRTOS with our session on Mu...

nour_oud•10/13/24, 3:02 PM

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Ttechielew I’m curious how much the Musk Optimus robots “understand” at this point. You’d t...

Ming•10/13/24, 6:15 PM

To me ‘understanding’ would be teaching it to iron a pair of trousers and then giving it a shirt. How can it cope with inferred knowledge.

MMing To me ‘understanding’ would be teaching it to iron a pair of trousers and then g...

techielew•10/13/24, 6:22 PM

Does inferred knowledge like this require a level of unsupervised learning? I guess it would have to... which is also the great fear when you have an army of robot slaves all around us.

Hey guys, what do you think about the future of Open-source contributions in embedded systems. Are

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