I too am interested in FFB collective…….using a VPF motor on a custom built collective to use with t

I too am interested in FFB collective…….using a VPF motor on a custom built collective to use with the X-Trident’s A109SP …..why?…..because in a 4-axis AFCS the collective with trim feel engaged will actually respond power changes. If you press the trim feel trigger underneath the collective it will disengage the trim feel and allow manual control…….i feel that the VPF motor would be perfect to make such a realistic collective. But not sure if it can…..??

BOO•10/13/24, 8:34 AM

Quick question- im down below 150 on the wait list. How are we contacted when its time to place an order? I dont want to miss it if an email ends up in my junk folder. Thanks

BBOO Quick question- im down below 150 on the wait list. How are we contacted when it...

hectik•10/13/24, 9:53 AM

You'll get an email and a message from VPforceBot.

Hhectik You'll get an email and a message from VPforceBot.

BOO•10/13/24, 9:53 AM

Thanks

Youtch•10/13/24, 11:43 AM

What is exactly the additional length of built-in extenstion compared to vkb or virpil base? From the dimensions it looks like it is 160mm from the axis of rotation, and in my vkb it looks like i am only 40mm from the axis rotation (my guess, it might be more), hence I was assuming that you have defacto a 120mm extension built in. Has someone measure this more accuretely?

YYoutch What is exactly the additional length of built-in extenstion compared to vkb or ...

Hiob•10/13/24, 12:18 PM

From the point of rotation to the top of thread it‘s ~140mm measured from the CAD files.

MMike T I too am interested in FFB collective…….using a VPF motor on a custom built coll...

Number481•10/13/24, 12:32 PM

Not without collaboration from ~~(and likely significant work by)~~ the developer. Edit Well, after looking at some info about the heli, it seems there is at least some provisions built in to allow for springless joysticks and/or FFB implementations. But its unknown how or if this extends to the collective axis. Also I don't own the aircraft nor have access to the manual to even try to get a sense of what it would take

HHiob From the point of rotation to the top of thread it‘s ~140mm measured from the CA...

Youtch•10/13/24, 1:49 PM

Thank you! Any idea on how does it compare with vkb or virpil?

Hiob•10/13/24, 1:51 PM

My VKB has no more than 45-50mm to the connector. I would guess Virpil is about the same.

Hiob•10/13/24, 1:54 PM

In my personal opinion the Rhino works best as a center/floor mount stick with extension. As a side stick e.g. it is not well suited.

Oneill•10/13/24, 6:49 PM

Well guys, I’ve not flown in the ikarus for over 9 months, I added the force feedback stick to my simulator to help with my training.
Today I took off unassisted, first landing was a bit crap, but the next 7 touch and goes were as my instructor said, bloody perfect.
So if anyone says Spending all that money on it is a waste, tell them they don’t know what they are talking about.
Looking to be going solo in the middle of December weather permitting.

Bob Bushman•10/13/24, 7:15 PM

If its fun its not a waste

, I think it's getting better but I still wouldn't rely on my home pit, even with rhino and vr, but I do think it can help more to keep the mindset running than say chair flying or just staring at flight instrument posters if you are weeks maybe even months between actual flights.

Warwolf09•10/13/24, 8:43 PM

Just in case anyone wants to do something similar. I was able to modify one of my hotas mounts in my Next Level Racing Military Edition Chair. Pretty easy just need to make a couple of new holes and you can use the rhino as a collective! Works great with the H145. Autopilot moves the collective. Let me know if you want more info on how to modify the mount

Fr4Ged•10/13/24, 9:00 PM

that is a wild setup

Warwolf09•10/13/24, 9:20 PM

@walmis i wish we had native support for the Virpil Hawk-60 collective grip! It would be awesome

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•10/14/24, 6:15 AM

Hello everyone. Small reminder. I git one Kit ready to Ship to build a Monster Rhino that IS able to Take the biggest VPForce Motors 86BLF04.
Two opinions on the Base you can find Here:
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/357705-monster-ffb-rhino-diy-kit-supplyservice-supplementary-to-kaltokriwinger-kits/#comment-5533855
Usually i only make These Kit per Order cause the parts are quite expensive but i Made this extra one on Stock. To get my Investment Back now available at a reduced price (PM for Details).
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Hi Folks, Based on the awesome Work of @TheAmazingGreat (thanks for your permission to use your Work AS a Base) I made some slight changes and am offering a VPForce MONSTER Rhino Kit sourcing service. The "Thing" kit has the following Specs: - Gimbal printed from laser sintered PA12. - Grip-Conne...

Hiob•10/14/24, 7:57 AM

Oh, the urge.....

but I already spent a fortune on Rhino related stuff......

BBob Bushman If its fun its not a waste 😉, I think it's getting better but I still wouldn't ...

Oneill•10/14/24, 10:51 AM

Looking to do my solo in December sometime, then it’s just exams to get out of the way.
Next stop training for my flight instructor course the year after

Hhectik You'll get an email and a message from VPforceBot.

WhiteHawk77•10/14/24, 11:41 AM

What’s the average wait time between that message with the order form to the follow up message to pay?

WWhiteHawk77 What’s the average wait time between that message with the order form to the fol...

hectik•10/14/24, 11:59 AM

Not sure what the average is, but I received the invoice seven days after completing the order form.

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f14billy•10/14/24, 4:12 PM

Monster Rhino as a center stick and original Rhino as a side stick. Thank you @SR-FWinger[73]_David and @walmis for making this possible! The 86 motors are amazing. They never overheat no matter how hard or how long I pull.

Ff14billy Monster Rhino as a center stick and original Rhino as a side stick. Thank you @S...

Col. Sanders•10/14/24, 4:36 PM

I am assuming the mounting footprint is different? Is that true?

f14billy•10/14/24, 4:38 PM

Width is the same. Length is longer.

f14billy•10/14/24, 4:38 PM

Col. Sanders•10/14/24, 4:40 PM

Wonder if the holes could be adjusted so it could still fit a monstertech mounting plate.

Fierce_Fire•10/14/24, 4:44 PM

Assuming yes, but dunno if you want that

Alighierian•10/14/24, 4:44 PM

MT plate has 20mm slots, for 160x 140-180mm.

Alighierian•10/14/24, 4:45 PM

I suspect having it supported on both ends is likely preferrable, yea

Fierce_Fire•10/14/24, 4:45 PM

I originally mounted my system to connect on one side using 4 40x40mm alu connectors

Fierce_Fire•10/14/24, 4:45 PM

It rotated

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•10/14/24, 5:17 PM

mounting pattern for the Monster is roughly 160mm width to 190mm length.
So width is the same while length is +30mm

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•10/14/24, 5:21 PM

its a bit diffrent from the original TheAmazingGreat files. I made some slight changes to the bottom plate (added side reinforcements - probably not needed but i like to overengineer things;)) and added an exhaust fan for better ventilation.

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•10/14/24, 5:21 PM

the front intake has a dust filter incorporated.

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•10/14/24, 5:22 PM

as you can see on the images of F14billy the height of the grip connector is roughly the same as original rhino

SSR-F_Winger_[73]_David Hello everyone. Small reminder. I git one Kit ready to Ship to build a Monster R...

Reed•10/14/24, 5:47 PM

Sent you a message on dcs forums.

B34ker•10/14/24, 6:02 PM

Damn, I want a monster Rhino. Looks sick and I bet it'd be great for long dogfights in warbirds (which is what I use my Rhino for mostly currently). Just a bit too poor to be acquiring anything big right now

BB34ker Damn, I want a monster Rhino. Looks sick and I bet it'd be great for long dogfig...

f14billy•10/14/24, 6:03 PM

Yes that's why I got it. Since I mostly do dogfights in DCS with a center stick and an extension.

Oneill•10/14/24, 6:03 PM

Hi guys, anyone else have the MFG crosswinds?
I’m trying to turn the sensitivity down and I can’t find out how to get it less so it’s not shooting off in any direction.

OOneill Hi guys, anyone else have the MFG crosswinds? I’m trying to turn the sensitivity...

Hiob•10/14/24, 6:14 PM

What do you mean? Regular ones or FFB modded?

RReed Sent you a message on dcs forums.

SR-F_Winger_[73]_David•10/14/24, 6:27 PM

Will answer later

HHiob What do you mean? Regular ones or FFB modded?

Oneill•10/14/24, 6:51 PM

Regular.
Every time I set off on the runway it’s massively over controlling , if I push the pedals to the limits 4 times it’s fine, land and it’s the same.
Bloody things.

OOneill Regular. Every time I set off on the runway it’s massively over controlling , if...

Hiob•10/14/24, 7:06 PM

Did you properly calibrate them with the MFG software?
Which Sim are we talking about?
what does the device manager in Windows show. Does the axis work properly there?
Depending on the answers I would assume problems in the sims control settings is more likely than anything else.

VPS_Choki•10/14/24, 8:08 PM

did simebody try the msfs 24 alpha with a rhino?

DDr. No Apparently I stumbled across this paid app. https://www.simracingstudio.com/pc-g...

Spelljammer1•10/14/24, 9:08 PM

Hello, sorry to necro an old post. Did you manage to interface Sim Racing Studio with VPForce Rhino / TelemFFB?

OOneill Regular. Every time I set off on the runway it’s massively over controlling , if...

Fierce_Fire•10/15/24, 5:32 AM

So the max input changes during play? That should definitely not happen, calibrate them.

Fierce_Fire•10/15/24, 5:33 AM

However, some planes are just that sensitive to nose wheel steering during takeoff. In f16 I barely put in anything to correct it, and you gotta turn it off after 80 something knots or youll go flying

FFierce_Fire However, some planes are just that sensitive to nose wheel steering during takeo...

Oneill•10/15/24, 6:18 AM

Yeah something is definitely not right.
I’ll try to reinstall it.
Thanks

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