VPforce Controls•13mo ago

Motors going offline from time to time: device firmware v1.0.17b12

Rocco ThamanoidisOP•12/29/24, 9:52 PM

Rocco ThamanoidisOP•12/29/24, 9:54 PM

Temps: 28-32°C, also happened under usage situations.

RRocco Thamanoidis Motors going offline from time to time: device firmware v1.0.17b12

H145Rotor-Sims•12/30/24, 4:48 AM

Loose connection?

f14billy•12/30/24, 5:26 AM

Right. I'd definitely check the wiring to make sure the power cables are firmly connected to the board.

When the disconnect happens it would be good to see the voltages on the configurator in case maybe the problem is the power supply or a faulty e stop switch.

.Eagle.•12/30/24, 6:08 AM

could the use of an much stronger PSU with an output of 14.6 amps at 24V , but set in the software to 30Afor motors (57BLF03) and max PSU current 8.0A be the cause for my system to get Fault_Unstable and Fault_UNDERVOLTS codes?

.Eagle.•12/30/24, 6:09 AM

the 57BLF03 specs stated its rate amps is 15A . Do you guys believe is safe to increase the PSU current to 14A to prevents motors from stoping due undervolts?

.Eagle.•12/30/24, 6:11 AM

I had been leaving the power settings to rhino default setting since the beginning , but now im starting to get this faults codes...

Ff14billy Right. I'd definitely check the wiring to make sure the power cables are firmly ...

Rocco ThamanoidisOP•12/30/24, 6:18 AM

So I should record that screen with OBS maybe.

Thanks for the reply.

WingOver•12/30/24, 7:41 AM

fyi - found in DCS.Log
Errors
Error attempt to index local 'MCP' (a nil value)
Line 302
Script C:\Users\WNGOVER\Saved Games\DCS\Scripts/TelemFFB.lua
If the above errors point to DCS internal files, please conduct a !repair.
Otherwise remove the respective unofficial mod.

Wwalmis It's the loopback app not saving the last used device, will need to check it onc...

Jaeger•12/31/24, 2:41 AM

Hello, are there any news on this topic?

Wwalmis It's the loopback app not saving the last used device, will need to check it onc...

H145Rotor-Sims•12/31/24, 4:40 AM

I have this issue as well because I use an outside connection USB controller and in my case I have to start two instances of it everytime and re-select my in/output. Is there a way you design the app so it's all in one where we map multiple instances of in/out? I know there may be a way in telemffb with master and child instance and I tried it but it didn't work. Number481 I think is looking into it.

HH145Rotor-Sims Hoping this will help some with balancing their spring: https://youtu.be/PSRmI5B...

mark turner•12/31/24, 8:55 AM

Having some issues when trying to follow your guide.....basically, at -100, the stick will be held firmly fully forwards - I t will almost snap forwards once past the centre...I can move it back towards the centre, then it will become loose as it passes the centre point. At +100 setting, the stick wants to fall backwards, resistance increases the further forward I push it, but it does not snap back like it does when applying -100....If I set zero, the stick will fall backwards. Any percentage setting between will only affect the stick once it goes past centre, so I am no able to get it to stay where I place it with any setting.....why is this? I have everything unchecked as per the guide...here is my conf file

DumpF18.vpconf7.27KB

mark turner•12/31/24, 8:59 AM

My settings are pretty much default, but I also get an annoying oscillation around the centre point if I turn up my gain pot anything more than about 20%, which sucks as I want some stronger force......whats the best way to dial this out please?

Mmark turner Having some issues when trying to follow your guide.....basically, at -100, the ...

H145Rotor-Sims•12/31/24, 1:08 PM

Hi Mark, first with no effects on etc perform the calibration procedure.
Next make sure effects are off click apply. Then on in the balance spring option make sure to unlink x and y and + and -. Click apply then work on each axis independently. Initially the stick will flop around depending on extension and weight. The goal is to get it to the point it isn't snapping back to center but instead stays where you put it. As for the oscillation that would be a question for walmis. Post screen shots of your setting and make a video if you can.

CMBAero•12/31/24, 1:33 PM

Anyone ever got a problem with the VPForce Winwing adapter to fitting in the joystick hole?

CMBAero•12/31/24, 1:34 PM

Whatever way I try to insert it, the shape seems to big the fit and I did not change any settings when I printed my joystick gimbal...

CCMBAero Anyone ever got a problem with the VPForce Winwing adapter to fitting in the joy...

MGBDave•12/31/24, 2:44 PM

Yes. I also had this issue. I made a custom replacement alignment plate for the part shown with the arrow in the WW adapter that fits correctly.

I can look for that part and post it if you want.

MMGBDave Yes. I also had this issue. I made a custom replacement alignment plate for the ...

CMBAero•12/31/24, 2:53 PM

That would be greatly appreciated! It would save me a lot of work!

CCMBAero That would be greatly appreciated! It would save me a lot of work!

MGBDave•12/31/24, 3:22 PM

I believe this is the file I used to replace the original arrow plate. You may need to slightly scale if it's too tight.

MGBDave•12/31/24, 3:22 PM

WWAdapterConnector-mate.stl548.91KB

CMBAero•12/31/24, 3:31 PM

Thank you!

Aamadeus the virpil alpha and alpha prime have left hand variants

Jingle•12/31/24, 4:20 PM

"the virpil alpha and alpha prime have left hand variants" Do these fit the Rhino base out of the box?

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(41F) RAFAIR Dave H•12/31/24, 4:37 PM

Hiya I have an issue I updated telem fb to latest version which then told me I needed to update rhino firmware which I did but now when rhino configuration starts I get an error saying incorrect version 182 expecting 181 or something similar firmware is v1.0.17b2

((41F) RAFAIR Dave H Hiya I have an issue I updated telem fb to latest version which then told me I n...

kaltokri•12/31/24, 4:42 PM

Maybe this will help you: 🧰support

JJingle "the virpil alpha and alpha prime have left hand variants" Do these fit the Rhi...

amadeus•12/31/24, 5:26 PM

Yeah should have no problem working

Reed•12/31/24, 6:49 PM

Any reason why vpforve is using 5.5-7.5% of my cpu?

Reed•12/31/24, 6:49 PM

Reed•12/31/24, 6:51 PM

When I shut the program down, the cpu utilization in cpu 0,1,4,5,8,9 goes back to idle.

Reed•12/31/24, 6:51 PM

what is the normal cpu utiliation, do we know this number?

Trinity•12/31/24, 7:25 PM

I'm trying to fly the A10C II and am noticing that while force trim is working, I'm not feeling any vibrations in the stick. Is this supposed to vibrate when I shoot the cannon?

TTrinity I'm trying to fly the A10C II and am noticing that while force trim is working, ...

.Eagle.•12/31/24, 8:12 PM

yes, but you have to set it up in telemffb

Trinity•12/31/24, 8:15 PM

What are the steps to complete that? Is it like that for other aircraft as well? I fly the Tomcat and felt that the FFB was pretty good.

TTrinity What are the steps to complete that? Is it like that for other aircraft as well?...

TheAmazinGreat•12/31/24, 9:23 PM

TelemFFB is a separate program from the configurator that adds more forces than are native to the sim using telemetry exported from the sim. Download and install from here.

https://github.com/walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB/releases

GitHub

Releases · walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB

DCS FFB Telemetry Effects (for VPforce FFB). Contribute to walmis/VPforce-TelemFFB development by creating an account on GitHub.

TheAmazinGreat•12/31/24, 9:25 PM

The documentation on how to use and install it is in the Rhino manual. Assuming you are flying DCS, there may be one additional step for the installation to get it going which will be in the manual.

WhereNoLarkFlew•12/31/24, 9:57 PM

Having issues getting the brake axis and twist axis to be recognized for the constellation Alpha. Raw Values don't change when either axis is turned. Thumbstick axes work fine. Any tips on how to debug? Latest firmware installed v1.0.17b12 @walmis @Red Magic

Red, did you do anything to fix this? Found some comments from you above.

Trinity•12/31/24, 9:58 PM

I installed Telem FFB and now my game crashes to desktop every time I try to get into a plane.

Trinity•12/31/24, 10:14 PM

Works fine if I close TelemFFB

WWhereNoLarkFlew Having issues getting the brake axis and twist axis to be recognized for the con...

WhereNoLarkFlew•12/31/24, 10:35 PM

I think it's my stick. VPC's software can't see those axes either :/

WhereNoLarkFlew•12/31/24, 10:36 PM

Any suggestions on a more robust stick?

TTrinity I installed Telem FFB and now my game crashes to desktop every time I try to get...

kaltokri•12/31/24, 11:49 PM

Check Export.lua and disable other tools in there to check if there are incompatibilities.

Kkaltokri Check Export.lua and disable other tools in there to check if there are incompat...

Trinity•1/1/25, 12:04 AM

I'll check. Not sure if it matters but if I start TelemFFB after I'm already in the plane it works great. My DCS is a clean load too, just reloaded my computer yesterday.

Kkaltokri Check Export.lua and disable other tools in there to check if there are incompat...

Trinity•1/1/25, 2:55 AM

Only thing I'm seeing in my scripts folder is SimHaptic and TelemFFB

HH145Rotor-Sims Hi Mark, first with no effects on etc perform the calibration procedure. Next m...

mark turner•1/1/25, 10:40 AM

Will do thanks - thought I followed the steps, but perhaps left out the apply after calibration and unlink....

Vertigo (VIV)•1/1/25, 11:48 AM

Im having some trouble with the vpforce winwing adapter. The vpforce app detects the adapter when I select it, but all buttons on the winwing grip are constantly pressed and dont work. Suggestions?

HH145Rotor-Sims Hi Mark, first with no effects on etc perform the calibration procedure. Next m...

mark turner•1/1/25, 12:01 PM

Hi, OK, tried this again, and having similar issues I use a virpil Z extension on both my Rhinos, and when I have the stick at centre or forward of centre, I can adjust the negative balance spring value (approx 11%) to make it stay in a placed position. But if go backwards past the centre, then the stick wont stay where you put it - even at 100% negative..of course at this setting, once I place the stick anywhere past centre in the forwards direction, it snaps fully forwards.

mark turner•1/1/25, 12:03 PM

Another thing I notcied on calibration ( but not in normal use) is that when you rotate the stick around the circle at full deflection, there are places where I am feeling a cogging ( forwards) and other places ( around 4 oclock and 8 oclock) where I can feel a notching....any ideas whats going on there?

mark turner•1/1/25, 12:06 PM

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mark turner•1/1/25, 12:07 PM

A video may a little large to post

mark turner•1/1/25, 12:13 PM

and with my normal effects applied

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H145Rotor-Sims•1/1/25, 1:38 PM

The first screen shot you show the balance spring at -94% in the forward postion 6% in the positive but your 2nd screen shot your balance spring shows -11.1% and 0%..Your left and right is also changed. On my forward position I'm using 18% (positive number) and rear 5%, 12% on my left and 10% on my right. As for cogging this usually means the calibration ones done properly to full deflection or there is a mechanical issue.

Motors going offline from time to time: device firmware v1.0.17b12

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