Hi, I have the 86BLF04 motors fitted in my home made setup including rudder pedals. The torque is so great that I limit the master gain to 70%. My gear ratio is 3.6:1. I have never measured the torque produced at max levels. The other benefit is my motors never get hot, and therefore I have no need for fans. As an Ex PPL pilot and someone who is involved in building new flight sims for the military, one of the key benefits of the FFB is not just the feedback from control surfaces, but the subtleties of feeling stalls, buffeting, gear and flap travel etc.... One of the biggest positive impacts of using the FFB is Trim and Force Trim, they make flying even more immersive, and in some cases easier. If you are fighting stick pressures when you are not manoeuvring, you are probably not flying "correctly". Trimming was hammered into me in my PPL training by an ex-military instructor, and it makes flying more pleasurable and less tiring. Currently I am building a second identical setup for my son. However, I do not think you will lose much by buying the standard motors, plus they are cheaper if budget is an issue.
