that's a false statement, some frameworks work better with cloudflare's server approach
that's a false statement, some frameworks work better with cloudflare's server approach
SCloudflare Docs
Create full-stack applications deployed to Cloudflare Workers.
Swhat is your definition of “better” here
Ssomething @Walshy | Workers/Pages would recommend that would cause the least pain building with cloudflare (less pain, more stability, more alignment etc)
Wi don't often ssr tbh, it's more work than i spend on the sites i build - i usually react csr + vite
but, for the few sites i do ssr i astro + react, works great.
but, for the few sites i do ssr i astro + react, works great.
Wi know sveltekit is very popular too
Wremix also works but is not my personal taste
Si still think the only outlier here is nextjs
Wand wip https://orange-js.dev/
Wyeah nextjs is... hard. they make it hard for anyone that aren't them to support
Sdoes remix behave well with cloudflare?
it fit my bill - old + less pain
it fit my bill - old + less pain
Wit does
Si mean it really also depends what you are doing
Shono with jsx would probably be rock solid as well
Wyeah could also do that
Stoo new, i like stability with stack
Smost frontend frameworks were rewritten at least once in the last 2 years pretty sure hono jsx is older than that
Sthanks folks
Sif you want to ai your stuff together remix/react if you want ssr i love sveltekit
Syeah that's what I don't like about next (amongst hundreds of other things)
IPersonally I stay away from Remix since they announced they're rolling it into React Router
IJust because then it's no longer a framework, really... it's a package that does a lot of things.
IHas anybody gotten
nodejs_compat_populate_process_env to work yet? I have a repro of it not functioning for a newly created repo with everything up to date. Deets: https://community.cloudflare.com/t/the-new-process-env-support-in-cloudflare-workers-does-not-work-properly/778592/2
Si thought if you used the newest major of remix its a codemon away from migrating no?
IYes but I don't trust codemods, they're never perfect.
Si dont like react but id even go so far as tanstack start because i trust tanner. but that isnt even in the docs yet and brand new as well
Sjust the name has changed for remix
Stanstack is too new for me - i like stability in web frameworks
JAt some point Cloudflare may officially deprecate it, but it's effectively abandoned today and hasn't received any updates for new Cloudflare bindings and things in about a year, with many tooling versions now being outdated, nearing EOL, and with security issues.
Sthank you for saving me from ruining my next few months 
Soh btw cf people, i heard partkit got “acquired” by cf and we are getting partyserver now. too early for its own channel?
Sok so for production webapps i guess the answer is remix?
Si mean react router now*
Si have multiple production apps using sveltekit using d1,kv, cache, rate limiting etc and i have 0 issues either. workers have been stable for ages. all that changed is assets being stored on a cdn now
Ssveltekit had bugs as a framework when i tried it two years ago, im not trying it again in atleast 5 years
i don't want to see bugs in the basic things i build with cloudflare (later I settled on next.js which also turned out to be a pain)
i don't want to see bugs in the basic things i build with cloudflare (later I settled on next.js which also turned out to be a pain)
Sif you are that worried about it
SSPA + workers 
Sor well jquery if you need that much trust
SjQuery is not needed now - javascript has everything we need in it
Sit's old but unnecessary
Snot everything that's old is good
Sif you stay away from remix what do you use in prod?
ISvelteKit and Astro mainly.
II don't like React much either, only use it when I need to.
Soh okay
Mcan a worker connect to a postgres server running in a tailscale network?
Eworkers have no special way of connecting to tailscale, youd have to expose it to the internet somehow
probably smth like https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive/configuration/connect-to-private-database/
probably smth like https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive/configuration/connect-to-private-database/
Cloudflare Docs
Hyperdrive can securely connect to your private databases using Cloudflare Tunnel and Cloudflare Access.
Mthanks @Erisa - i imagine this should be fairly secure too, given that a tunnel will not allow non-http connections, whereas hyperdrive must have been provided with an exemption
Enon-http is possible as long as there's an agent on the other side proxying it back again, hyperdrive has that built in to the service
Eand it's secure yes
