The gif stuff wasn’t in the initial open sourcing, we had a PR put in for it using another open sour
The gif stuff wasn’t in the initial open sourcing, we had a PR put in for it using another open source library
MSo it may not be the original library used in tilt brush
Aah! that's helpful
ASo - I want to know if it is related to post processing or not. @AncientWorlds - are you pretty certain that Tilt Brush gifs had no bloom etc?
ACan you try one other thing for me? In Scripts/Gif Creation/GifEncodeTask.cs line 166 - change:
to
and see if it makes a difference to the gif quality?
to
and see if it makes a difference to the gif quality?
ASeems like every frame is being forced to use the color palette of the first frame and in some cases this might be unsuitable. Might not be the biggest factor though. Depends how typical the first frame is
AThere's also a quality setting that ranges between 1 and 30. It defaults to 10. If you add the line:
ge.quality = 30;
it should change that. I'm not entirely sure if lower=better but try 1 and 30 and it should be fairly obvious
ge.quality = 30;
it should change that. I'm not entirely sure if lower=better but try 1 and 30 and it should be fairly obvious
NGifs are pretty laggy, the motion is not smooth (especially for the 5 seconds gif).
PHello wonderful Icosa people. I remember seeing talks about taking out the lens blur from video recordings a long time ago- could someone direct me on where i can find more info about that?
KFirst thanks for your support and sorry i see it late. Yes i want to maje a movie navigating the piece. To place some music over. Like you said fly over the work. On mac only gif and picture. Nothing else. Like when use Oculus alone.
AReally good info, will take a look at the tools and changes.
How should I have post processing set in the openbrush.cfg file, for this purpose?
As to when it began, probably when the gif file change was made initially.
The newer version does seem to introduce artifacts fairly often, and I'd definitely prefer overall quality improvements.
I considered resizing the video recorder tool window (the square frame is easier to navigate for some shots), but that isn't really the desired outcome.
Anyhow, appreciate the info.
Curious what the other two modes do
How should I have post processing set in the openbrush.cfg file, for this purpose?
As to when it began, probably when the gif file change was made initially.
The newer version does seem to introduce artifacts fairly often, and I'd definitely prefer overall quality improvements.
I considered resizing the video recorder tool window (the square frame is easier to navigate for some shots), but that isn't really the desired outcome.
Anyhow, appreciate the info.
Curious what the other two modes do
ATrying to understand what "laggy" means. Low frame rate?
AThe "frameDelay" setting for each preset in my earlier screengrabs seems to control frame rate. It's set to 0.05 which 20fps. I do wonder though if gifs are really the right format if you want higher quality. Why not video? Gifs are essentially just a weird historical relic and should probably have been put out to pasture 20 years ago
Atwo reasons gifs are nice: Easy to post to social media. Square camera format is easy to walthrough navigate scenes with
AYou can have square video too.
AWhat social media accepts gif but not video? (Twitter's horrible video compression aside)
AOr is it about gifs being accepted in comments where videos are only in main posts? I don't do a ton of social media so I'm probably missing some subtlety here.
NNot sure if the lag is due to frame rate or the capture itself
NYeah I need GIFs cause I sell NFTs
NBut I agree GIF sucks ^^
AGifs autoplay on some of them, video has to be activated. Generally easier to use.
Now facebook changed their display format so the ones from open brush are actually huge (about the same size as the videos)
Haven't tried making a square video yet, and not sure how the reformat algos would handle it.
Generally gifs fit better in feeds. What is most usable depends on the social media account.
I got some tips on disabling audio in video, but it's still more work to produce and review them
Now facebook changed their display format so the ones from open brush are actually huge (about the same size as the videos)
Haven't tried making a square video yet, and not sure how the reformat algos would handle it.
Generally gifs fit better in feeds. What is most usable depends on the social media account.
I got some tips on disabling audio in video, but it's still more work to produce and review them
ANFTs can't be mp4 video? I thought they were basically just a url.
NThe problem is that video do not autoplay on opensea:
https://opensea.io/collection/metaverse--wearables
BTW get yourself some openbrush-made NFT goodness ^^
https://opensea.io/collection/metaverse--wearables
BTW get yourself some openbrush-made NFT goodness ^^
Avideo do not autoplayThey should fix that. Autoplay should be off by default if there's audio (or at least muted) but on by default in most other cases. I've actually got a Firefox plugin that turns off autoplay for everything but then I'm weird.
NI agree
A"Let's use a crappy 30 year old format because there's this one website that won't change 1 line of code"
AGifs are built for sharing, memes are at least half the internet now
A(and I checked - animation was added to the gif in the 1989 standard. So happy 30 year anniversary animated gifs!)
AGifs are built for sharing,no. gifs are used for sharing because of a cluster of poor usability decisions by browser vendors and web developers.
MVideo has come a long way since the social media age, and is miles more efficient and better looking than you could hope to achieve with gifs. It's a shame it's treated like a secondary format by the platforms still
Mwebm and webp are :chefkiss:
Aheh. anyone remember the gif patent boycott?
AYa, it is. I assume it's entirely a bandwidth decision. Also the last rugged remnants of traditionalism
Anyhow, they tend to fit box-like column formats well.
Inside open brush they are currently easier to use, in general, even if not quite as sharp.
No reprocessing, can quickly open a bunch in browser tabs, easier to frame shots
Anyhow, they tend to fit box-like column formats well.
Inside open brush they are currently easier to use, in general, even if not quite as sharp.
No reprocessing, can quickly open a bunch in browser tabs, easier to frame shots
MI received a scholarship from Unisys, so they bought me 
Agifs are bigger than the equivalent video file unless you're doing something very weird with your compression settings (or doing pixel art)
AAlso, can add them in the background without much overhead, which is something I've been thinking about a lot, though haven't used much
transparency would open up some interesting options
transparency would open up some interesting options
AI've got a project planned which will probably use a lot of them, just haven't got to it
Afilming video on video didn't work well, iirc. also the gifs fit into box frames better
AIn terms of concrete feature changes from this - can i summarise?
- Someone will hopefully play with the gif presets inside Unity and suggest some new presets
- If I get feedback about the quality setting, then I will tweak that
- Still need to pin down whether quality issues is related to post-processing or not.
- I'm considering adding user presets to the config file so allow people to define their own gif presets.
AThat "box" thing again. Is it not possible to make square videos?
AI'd really appreciate improvements to the docs around video, gif and image export. I don't use it enough. You lot use it all the time - you can do a much better job of documenting it than I could.
ACurrent user submissions to the docs is hovering around 0 
A@andybak
Presumably, but then I have to step out, change the files.
Also also not sure about recording recordings, my computer didn't do well the one time I tried, but may have been updating, not sure.
As far as documenting, don't really have anything to add to what's in the original tilt brush documentation
I usually just hit the camera button and push record, haven't experimented a lot with it. Haven't done paths for a while.
As far as export, just goes in the documents/open brush/snapshots folder (or video) and grab it from there
If there was a square panel preset for video I'd probably use it.
Presumably most people don't shut off animations in their browser, and if it's an extra click you'll lose half your audience if its in a place like twitter
Presumably, but then I have to step out, change the files.
Also also not sure about recording recordings, my computer didn't do well the one time I tried, but may have been updating, not sure.
As far as documenting, don't really have anything to add to what's in the original tilt brush documentation
I usually just hit the camera button and push record, haven't experimented a lot with it. Haven't done paths for a while.
As far as export, just goes in the documents/open brush/snapshots folder (or video) and grab it from there
If there was a square panel preset for video I'd probably use it.
Presumably most people don't shut off animations in their browser, and if it's an extra click you'll lose half your audience if its in a place like twitter
Noh yeah webm might have autoplay let me check
AI know some sites were autoconverting gifs to autoplay webm to cut their bandwidth bills.
AAChrome's autoplay policies are simple:
Muted autoplay is always allowed.
Autoplay with sound is allowed if:
The user has interacted with the domain (click, tap, etc.).
On desktop, the user's Media Engagement Index threshold has been crossed, meaning the user has previously played video with sound.
The user has added the site to their home screen on mobile or installed the PWA on desktop.
Asounds sensible
Ainteresting. If it's best practices it will probably get widely adopted, they'll tie search ranking to it
AAs far as documenting, don't really have anything to add to what's in the original tilt brush documentationBut we've just had 20 screenful of discussion about various subtleties around export. Is there not even a couple of useful snippets that can be distilled from this discussion that would improve the docs?
AThose were all questions, and a bit of ranting about gifs... haven't even tested them yet