GI'm sure there would be a way to adjust it, but that's how it's supposed to be. Most jets have limited forward travel, because the meat servos in the pilot seat can't handle nearly as much negative g as we can positive
KInteresting, as @andyhill said, WW1 planes model the droop
KI wonder if we pestered the devs, they could apply that feature to the older planes in the game
SThere is no WW1 planes in DCS so he probably meant in IL-2 WW1 planes model the droop.
Kyes, that's what I meant, sorry
Kfor now, I'm trying to fix the BF-109 trimming issue. Seems applying a -20 pitch offset does the trick, but I'm not sure if it will mess up the FFB
RAsking the DCS devs to do something is a field that bares no crop. They work to their own twisted calendar of graphics updates and Eldritch bug generating core revisions.
KI meant the IL-2 Devs, although I think you're right about both
RYea IL-2 is better at suggestions. Unless itβs to do with the Pacific theater. Then itβs a diamond wall.
RThey have their rut and by gum they plan to live in it!
Kalso another odd quirk I found. with the WW1 planes in IL2, the droop is modeled, so long as you don't alt-tab. Once you alt tab, all the other FFB effects work, but that one breaks
RProbably some initialization state that doesnβt reinstate when you go back into the game. Do they droop AFTER a flight?
KLanding a plane? Who has time for that?
Just kidding, I'll try it out once I get some more time
Just kidding, I'll try it out once I get some more time
RIt does show itβs doable somewhere in DirectX FFB.
RNever found good documentation on that very old part of DirectX
KI think it's probably worth-while to start a repository of FFB quirks and whatnot, so that if someone else experiences this issue, they don't have to pull out their hair wondering if it is them, the stick or the software
RI've brought this up a few times. The real F14 has its grip angled backward from the main stick shaft to compensate.
So for us to correct this, we also need an adapter to offset the grip angled rearward.
So for us to correct this, we also need an adapter to offset the grip angled rearward.
Sit would be nice to have a section where settings can be uploaded.maybe a github? or is that too random
DPut that in #
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TIs there a USB cable in the Rhino box?
WYes there is
T
WWhy? Did I forgot to add one?
TNo, I was in town, in a computer store and saw USB cables and wondered if it was included, I assumed it was but asked anyway. My Rhino is still with the Customs Departmentβ¦β¦.
Smy msffb 2 stick does the same effects and the rhino can also do it. the stick will droop forward when the prop isn't pushing too much air through the elevator but once you push the throttle forward the stick will go to center. Also the weird thing you might be noticing with the stick not centering where its supposed to is just a bug, you can trim back to center to fix it.
TI donβt have anything set up yet so I canβt check for myself, but Is it possible for one of the two auxiliary potentiometer spots on the board be configured to an axis in the software?
WYeah it's possible
TAwesome! Iβm working on a DIY grip and figured I could add a pot if that was the case using a 6 pin DIN cable. 5 pins used for the shift register and the 6th pin used for pot signal.
WIf your DIY grip has an arduino inside, you can transfer analog axis via the shift-register data also 
TThat would be awesome. Where can I find info on transferring analog data this way?
TIβve looked but not sure I am searching the right things.
TDo the analog axis input to the shift register or the Arduino? I could see where the Arduino acts as a way to combine analog input from the source and the digital input from the shift register into a single output to the VPForce board. But is it a different way?
WBasically you would need to implement a SPI slave
WYou can then transfer buttons in the first 64bits and 4 axis in the higher 64bits, 4x16bit signed integers.
Wso 16 bytes in total
TThanks! I will look into that some more and appreciate the help!
TIβve never done anything with SPI before, do I need to worry about breaking or frying anything on the VPForce board if I give it the wrong SPI signals? (Assuming V+ and GND are properly connected)
Wnope
WYou have the kit, right? I'll make you a FFB owner
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GWhat are the three pin connectors on the pcb board called? I'm adding pots to my build but need to order the connectors.
GAre they jst's?
TYep, got my kit yesterday! Super impressed with everything! Thank you so much for all the help!! 
Wyep, jst-xh
G@smitty#5756 hey, I was looking at those gear reduction planetaries you listed. Is there a huge benefit to using those? I would imagine it allows the motors to spin alot further for the same amount of stick deflection.
GDoes that allow different force outputs? Or maybe a more "accurate" force?
RI think they up torque motor spins faster producing more total power, gear reduction slows the rotation down so power equation result raises the torque.
SI made a first effort on the manual. Have a look and add what you can. Btw, what are the four empty boxes around the trim setting for?
WThanks.
In case you haven't discovered yet, if you hover mouse on some controls you will get a tooltip.
In case you haven't discovered yet, if you hover mouse on some controls you will get a tooltip.
WCurrently also working on documenting stuff in the app itself, for example:
