Asking the DCS devs to do something is a field that bares no crop. They work to their own twisted ca

Asking the DCS devs to do something is a field that bares no crop. They work to their own twisted calendar of graphics updates and Eldritch bug generating core revisions.

RRustBelt Asking the DCS devs to do something is a field that bares no crop. They work to ...

Khangirey•2/23/23, 10:20 PM

I meant the IL-2 Devs, although I think you're right about both

RustBeltOP•2/23/23, 10:21 PM

Yea IL-2 is better at suggestions. Unless it’s to do with the Pacific theater. Then it’s a diamond wall.

RustBeltOP•2/23/23, 10:22 PM

They have their rut and by gum they plan to live in it!

Khangirey•2/23/23, 10:22 PM

also another odd quirk I found. with the WW1 planes in IL2, the droop is modeled, so long as you don't alt-tab. Once you alt tab, all the other FFB effects work, but that one breaks

RustBeltOP•2/23/23, 10:23 PM

Probably some initialization state that doesn’t reinstate when you go back into the game. Do they droop AFTER a flight?

RRustBelt Probably some initialization state that doesn’t reinstate when you go back into ...

Khangirey•2/23/23, 10:24 PM

Landing a plane? Who has time for that?
Just kidding, I'll try it out once I get some more time

RustBeltOP•2/23/23, 10:27 PM

It does show it’s doable somewhere in DirectX FFB.

RustBeltOP•2/23/23, 10:27 PM

Never found good documentation on that very old part of DirectX

Khangirey•2/23/23, 10:29 PM

I think it's probably worth-while to start a repository of FFB quirks and whatnot, so that if someone else experiences this issue, they don't have to pull out their hair wondering if it is them, the stick or the software

Ggitbse No, that's representative of the real thing

roller25.•2/24/23, 12:26 AM

I've brought this up a few times. The real F14 has its grip angled backward from the main stick shaft to compensate.

So for us to correct this, we also need an adapter to offset the grip angled rearward.

skyPickle•2/24/23, 12:28 AM

it would be nice to have a section where settings can be uploaded.maybe a github? or is that too random

SskyPickle it would be nice to have a section where settings can be uploaded.maybe a github...

ddrake1984•2/24/23, 12:28 AM

Put that in #

suggestions

TrigaNZ•2/24/23, 1:37 AM

Is there a USB cable in the Rhino box?

TTrigaNZ Is there a USB cable in the Rhino box?

WeaselGX•2/24/23, 1:40 AM

Yes there is

TrigaNZ•2/24/23, 1:50 AM

TTrigaNZ Is there a USB cable in the Rhino box?

walmis•2/24/23, 5:06 AM

Why? Did I forgot to add one?

Wwalmis Why? Did I forgot to add one?😳

TrigaNZ•2/24/23, 5:22 AM

No, I was in town, in a computer store and saw USB cables and wondered if it was included, I assumed it was but asked anyway. My Rhino is still with the Customs Department…….

KKhangirey This is a competing product, but the presenter is saying that this is the game a...

SwiftVengeance•2/24/23, 8:02 AM

my msffb 2 stick does the same effects and the rhino can also do it. the stick will droop forward when the prop isn't pushing too much air through the elevator but once you push the throttle forward the stick will go to center. Also the weird thing you might be noticing with the stick not centering where its supposed to is just a bug, you can trim back to center to fix it.

TheAmazinGreat•2/24/23, 12:37 PM

I don’t have anything set up yet so I can’t check for myself, but Is it possible for one of the two auxiliary potentiometer spots on the board be configured to an axis in the software?

TTheAmazinGreat I don’t have anything set up yet so I can’t check for myself, but Is it possible...

walmis•2/24/23, 1:11 PM

Yeah it's possible

TheAmazinGreat•2/24/23, 1:22 PM

Awesome! I’m working on a DIY grip and figured I could add a pot if that was the case using a 6 pin DIN cable. 5 pins used for the shift register and the 6th pin used for pot signal.

walmis•2/24/23, 1:32 PM

If your DIY grip has an arduino inside, you can transfer analog axis via the shift-register data also

TheAmazinGreat•2/24/23, 2:02 PM

That would be awesome. Where can I find info on transferring analog data this way?

TheAmazinGreat•2/24/23, 2:05 PM

I’ve looked but not sure I am searching the right things.

TheAmazinGreat•2/24/23, 2:08 PM

Do the analog axis input to the shift register or the Arduino? I could see where the Arduino acts as a way to combine analog input from the source and the digital input from the shift register into a single output to the VPForce board. But is it a different way?

walmis•2/24/23, 2:28 PM

Basically you would need to implement a SPI slave

walmis•2/24/23, 2:30 PM

You can then transfer buttons in the first 64bits and 4 axis in the higher 64bits, 4x16bit signed integers.

walmis•2/24/23, 2:31 PM

so 16 bytes in total

TheAmazinGreat•2/24/23, 2:35 PM

Thanks! I will look into that some more and appreciate the help!

TheAmazinGreat•2/24/23, 2:37 PM

I’ve never done anything with SPI before, do I need to worry about breaking or frying anything on the VPForce board if I give it the wrong SPI signals? (Assuming V+ and GND are properly connected)

walmis•2/24/23, 2:41 PM

nope

walmis•2/24/23, 2:41 PM

You have the kit, right? I'll make you a FFB owner

walmis•2/24/23, 2:43 PM

https://gist.github.com/chrismeyersfsu/3317769

Gist

Arduino SPI Slave

Arduino SPI Slave. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

gitbse•2/24/23, 2:48 PM

What are the three pin connectors on the pcb board called? I'm adding pots to my build but need to order the connectors.

gitbse•2/24/23, 2:48 PM

Are they jst's?

TheAmazinGreat•2/24/23, 2:49 PM

Yep, got my kit yesterday! Super impressed with everything! Thank you so much for all the help!!

Ggitbse Are they jst's?

walmis•2/24/23, 2:50 PM

yep, jst-xh

gitbse•2/24/23, 11:44 PM

@smitty#5756 hey, I was looking at those gear reduction planetaries you listed. Is there a huge benefit to using those? I would imagine it allows the motors to spin alot further for the same amount of stick deflection.

gitbse•2/24/23, 11:44 PM

Does that allow different force outputs? Or maybe a more "accurate" force?

RustBeltOP•2/25/23, 1:35 AM

I think they up torque motor spins faster producing more total power, gear reduction slows the rotation down so power equation result raises the torque.

skyPickle•2/25/23, 1:14 PM

I made a first effort on the manual. Have a look and add what you can. Btw, what are the four empty boxes around the trim setting for?

SskyPickle I made a first effort on the manual. Have a look and add what you can. Btw, what...

walmis•2/25/23, 1:53 PM

Thanks.
In case you haven't discovered yet, if you hover mouse on some controls you will get a tooltip.

walmis•2/25/23, 1:54 PM

Currently also working on documenting stuff in the app itself, for example:

skyPickle•2/25/23, 5:08 PM

is there a place we could list the dcs bugs that give weird FFB behavior? For example, curves applied to pitch and roll give weird behavior in the Huey and the F5E

Wwalmis Currently also working on documenting stuff in the app itself, for example: