Not in my house lol, I rent a place for the workshop/lab hehe
Not in my house lol, I rent a place for the workshop/lab hehe
SThe sentiment stands!
SWould you be open to anything like that mate?
BImma gonna need like 50 people to back out.....thanks, lol
H@theoldnamesystemwasjustfine yeah? How much are ya willing to offer? 
BLet's ask loch Ness monster.........tree fiddy?
B
HHmmmmm. You make a compelling argument….
W!status
VHey @warwolf09,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0077 on 2023-04-11
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 152 days, median is 191 days, max is 216 days
76 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0077 on 2023-04-11
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 152 days, median is 191 days, max is 216 days
76 Rhinos are shipped in total
W!stats
VHey @wngover,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0077 on 2023-04-11
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 152 days, median is 191 days, max is 216 days
76 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0077 on 2023-04-11
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 152 days, median is 191 days, max is 216 days
76 Rhinos are shipped in total
V:package: 
RHINO #0078 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0078 Has Shipped!
L296 to go~
V:package: 
RHINO #0079 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0079 Has Shipped!
M10 to go
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PCongratulations Walmis! 
J
TIt's here 
TUnfortunately I can't test it yet because my virpil order hasn't shipped so I don't have a grip 
TFirst impression without turning it on though: It's much smaller than it looks in pictures, and build quality seems excellent
HWhat do you mean by that ? Never owned a brunner but before I have heard about vp force today, this was the only force feedback stick I knew off.
Wonder how a vp force will work with an extension, as an helicopter cyclic.
Wonder how a vp force will work with an extension, as an helicopter cyclic.
HHi, if a grip is displayed as supported by the rhino does it mean all buttons and axis of the grip are supported ?
Aafaik, yes
Ai have the virpil alpha grip, and it has all the axis and buttons available
HHow does it work to order ? Do we pay only when the product is ready to be shipped ?
BYou pay when ready to ship, yes
B107 to go, lol
L is a dream come true for 
and I've only flown Huey so far.LI've got 200 mm curved extension
SI already have the Brunner stick but I want to replace my CH pedals with FFB pedals. Does this project support DIY pedals with the current firmware and software?
SI have a machine shop, no issue making decent pedals
SFFB pedals would be amazing for helicopters and multi engine warbirds
SAnother question, has anyone made an adapter or firmware that takes the TM style handgrip signals and break them out into USB separate from the stick base?
AThe VPC one?
DSome grips like vkb and winwing need the vpforce adapter tho
Dvkb goes to the blackbox, make sure you have one of those
MThere are 2 unassigned axes on the board you could use for the toebrakes but there is not a 3rd axis for motor control you would need to use one of the kit's axes for that, though there has been some folks doing this as well as some other ff pedals someone made. Making them work in sims would req a bit of work but doable.
Not sure what you mean with the usb question, but the spi interface is on the board if you wanted a separate thing for that I'm pretty sure others exist
Not sure what you mean with the usb question, but the spi interface is on the board if you wanted a separate thing for that I'm pretty sure others exist
MBrunner is expensive, has limited mounting options, does not work with DirectInput without jumping through hoops using 3rd party software people struggle with to this day, even when it's working has connectivity caveats, the power cuts out if you hold full force for 20s or more, it runs hot. I've followed the Brunner threads on ED since it started a few years and it seems endless. A brunner owner @Sunshine recently found his way here to make a vpforce and can elaborate if he wants.
Meanwhile VPForce is plug and play with DirectInput, can output full force indefinitely since it has outrunner motors and active cooling, has a GUI to further augment profiles for planes/sims or make spring or damping profiles for sims that have nothing, a telemetry extraction app to enhance or replace shoddy feedback on sims that are lacking, costs way less, is available in kit form so crafty folk can make their own easily, has 2 unassigned axes that can be used for gain control, fans, game stuff
Meanwhile VPForce is plug and play with DirectInput, can output full force indefinitely since it has outrunner motors and active cooling, has a GUI to further augment profiles for planes/sims or make spring or damping profiles for sims that have nothing, a telemetry extraction app to enhance or replace shoddy feedback on sims that are lacking, costs way less, is available in kit form so crafty folk can make their own easily, has 2 unassigned axes that can be used for gain control, fans, game stuff
SIs that all it is, an SPI signal that comes out of the handgrip?
MYep, the vp board can interpret TM, Virpil, BaurBRD and any that use the same protocol natively, WinWing with an adapter but VKB req its own 'black box' you would need to route its wires to.
SThe toe brakes I could make a separate USB joystick, no biggie, it's the closed source software that I have no idea about with it working for rudder pedals
KI'm running the 200 mm Virpil extension on the rhino base and it's great!
SYes, I have to run a USB Arduino that connects to the Brunner via UDP. The Arduino does the conversion to Direct Input.
SIt works well for that but is an extra step and additional software being ran.
SBut the Brunner appears to be direct drive,no gear ratio to amplify the torque, so using extensions means the motors heat up quickly. If I don't fly and adjust trim continually to remove the force on the stick, it'll give out quick and it's a giant box between my thighs
SAnd it was 2x the price of a Rhino
RIt’s how my current franken sidewinder works. MMJOY2 on an Arduino Pro Micro talking to the TM stick shift registers.
SOk, so it's pretty straight forward then
RYea just search the web for MMJOY2 and dig into it.