WThanks. I think about 35Nm. I've put a luggage scale on the handle and I think it was about 14kg of force for full deflection.
WThats about 400mm above the pivot point.
WI upgraded the rose joints, as these developed play in a rather short time. This is one of the problems with higher forces.
SAgree, from past experience with race car suspension parts and building motion sims, I purposely steered clear of them for my stick and yoke FFB setups. They do allow a nice compact build though.
D@walmis sorry for the ping, but I just wanted to be clear, I am only after a WW adapter, not another RHINO 
WYeah, I ended up paying about $20ea for the rod ends I'm using. They seem to be holding up for now, certainly much better than the cheaper options.
WHarder to design without using at least one rod end though. Especially if you want it "compact" with these larger motors.
SAgree, so installed mine under the sim floor..
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SJust in Case... If anyone wants to sell his Rhino... Please contact me:)
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RHINO #0193 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0193 Has Shipped!V:package: 
RHINO #0192 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0192 Has Shipped!
Jwow, that waiting list is getting long
Nnot sure I follow exactly the symptom you are describing. Can you elaborate? Does it only happen with adaptive centering enabled?
In general, for issues I have seen related to force trim in helicopters.. Make sure you do not have any curves in your axis settings in DCS and make sure your Rhino calibration is accurate in VPf configurator
In general, for issues I have seen related to force trim in helicopters.. Make sure you do not have any curves in your axis settings in DCS and make sure your Rhino calibration is accurate in VPf configurator
HPossibly need to swap ffb axis in the dcs settings. Sounds like your force trim maybe trimming the wrong axis?
FYes it just happen when adaptive centering enabled, when off itβs all normal.
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RHINO #0191 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0191 Has Shipped!FAnd yes the su donβt have no curves
FAnd x/y axis are ok
JFor the pre-built Rhinos, how long is the lead from the power adapter to the base? What type of power connector is used?
My Rhino shipped today, and I'm trying to determine if I need to mount the power adapter on my motion rig, or if the power lead is long enough to be mounted on my rack below the rig.
My Rhino shipped today, and I'm trying to determine if I need to mount the power adapter on my motion rig, or if the power lead is long enough to be mounted on my rack below the rig.
MWho knew that FFB would be so popular....goes to show a LOT of people take this simming very seriously....
SCan't wait ! 
NAssuming the supplier hasn't changed since mine was shipped in May, the power supply lead is only about 3'. But it is a standard 5.5mx2.5mm DC plug. I am using a 6' extension with a 90 degree end (male side) on mine.
BIt's almost like we are a bunch of 40 something, chasing a 20+ year old dream we've long given up on, mostly..
JWe're in a golden age of flight sim.
MI feel personally attacked!
BI just simply described myself 
Jgreat, thank you
WAnd likely 80% of others on this board.
HHave we met? 
V:package: RHINO #0194 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0194 Has Shipped!
DWho has mounted a Rhino to a DOFReality H6/P6?
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RHINO #0195 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0195 Has Shipped!
BI was JUST telling a friend this a couple days ago. With VR, FFB, MSFS, and DCS (sorry X-Plane) and the wide range of flight controls available, we are fortunate indeed to have the toyz that we have.
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RHINO #0196 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0196 Has Shipped!
BQuite a long way from the ol serial port joysticks.
And having to choose between not loading joystick drivers, sound drivers or the mouse driver..
Wasnt really that hard, if I had use of my joystick I didnt need the mouse so much.
And having to choose between not loading joystick drivers, sound drivers or the mouse driver..
Wasnt really that hard, if I had use of my joystick I didnt need the mouse so much.
οΏ½I'm also looking forward to having the ability to use the Realsimulator F-16 grip! Do you have the info needed to enable that one in addition to the F-18 grip?
MThey use very similar firmware, and if the fix is what I think it is, it should also apply to the F-16
HWhat does it mean when my assigned S/N changes? This is because some people changed their mind and cancelled orders?
FI think so. Mine has changed a few times.
BMy serial has moved up by about 75 so far.
WYup, that was my intention as well. However I struggled to get the force I was wanting due to the longer extension. And then, as mentioned, it wasn't great as a heli cyclic. I'm rebuilding the base now, but I'll hopefully have something that is kinda half under the floor. Something of a compromise. Hopefully it doesn't end up looking like a dogs breakfast.
WIf I was building a cockpit dedicated to one aircraft it would be soooo much easier!
WIronically I have found myself flying the F16 in DCS, which of course doesn't even have a central stick 
SMy servos are installed in the Yoke setup at the moment, but remember the stick being more then adequate torque wise, even with the long throw.. I still have my Warthog stick setup installed for modern jets, as they are FBW. When I have the cash will purchase more servos and refit out the stick housing for warbirds, old jets and helis.
DSo I've printed pretty much everything I need except for the large pulleys. What print setting would you recommend for PLA? I was thinking about 4 perimeters and 40% infill so the inertial mass won't be too high. I was also thinking about locally increasing the center part's infill to 100% in order to reduce creep caused by the clamping force of the bolts.
JI personally went 4/40% on my pedals. Works great. Super strong
ACould anyone comment If any of these statements are relevant to Rhino?
"Winwing" we have already achieved torque closed-loop force feedback capabilities within our certified flight training devicesβa technological marvel surpassing any prevailing 'open-loop' counterparts saturating today's market...https://forum.dcs.world/topic/333680-interview-with-winwing-founder-alex-li/
Currently available consumer-grade force feedback products and some ongoing demos suffer from issues such as excessive inertia, dead zones in the gearbox mechanism, and cogging effects (resulting in less smooth operation due to inherent magnetic pole switching of motors). While these products may offer features like responsiveness, vibration control, and dynamic forces, they simply cannot achieve precise manipulation. Moreover, they risk inducing erroneous muscle memory for pilots and lack practical applicability.
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Dear friends of the DCS and sim community. In my Blog (El vuelo de la Gran Avutarda) I had the pleasure to interview Alex Li, who is the product manager and founder of WINWING. Chengdu WinWing Tech Co., LTD established in March 2013, specialized in research,development, production and sale of Fli...
TIβm guessing that by βopen loopβ he means regular mechanical spring force centering joysticks, as I donβt see any FFB solutions βsaturating the marketβ. As for the rest, I expect he is blowing his own horn. But itβs great to see controller developers going forth with FFB solutions for personal use
NSpecifically related to the description of other FFB devicesβ¦
excessive inertia, dead zones in the gearbox mechanism, and cogging effects (resulting in less smooth operation due to inherent magnetic pole switching of motors).
The Rhino suffers from exactly zero of these.
excessive inertia, dead zones in the gearbox mechanism, and cogging effects (resulting in less smooth operation due to inherent magnetic pole switching of motors).
The Rhino suffers from exactly zero of these.
BI may be uninformed but so far the only 'publicly' prevailing ffb sticks ive known of are surviving sidewinders and BrΓΌnner.